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7/10
Not so straight forward as some seem to think
matthewmabey18 February 2010
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As I read the many reviews of "The Shooting" I am amazed at how "certain" some people are about their speculation while other people seem to completely miss the point of some aspects of the movie. It seems to me that you are supposed to be left guessing about many of the details. I.e. who, exactly, is the woman? and who shoots who in the end.

The performance of "the woman" is a very difficult role and done quite well by Millie Perkins. She is playing the part of a clearly troubled and emotionally unstable woman who at the same time is very focused, determined, and calculating about one objective. The fact that she is slight and girlish in appearance is an intentional contrast to the vicious objective on which she has focused. Whatever her history, she is not a "gunslinger."

The unknowns during the movie and the unanswered questions even at the end are completely intentional, I think. Reality isn't about being omniscient. Everyone lives and dies having known only part of the story they've lived through.

Some clues in the movie that I think have been missed by many are as follows: The woman is more disturbed than would seem to be appropriate for being simply distraught over the death of husband and child. She also exhibits some signs of having been sexually assaulted.

Will intentionally leaves a trail of flour for the woman following him. Why? He must have already known something about her and her objectives before he even talked to Coley.

Will's hand is injured. How and why?

Will was late getting back. He gives Coley an explanation, but it isn't very satisfactory.

Will's gun is missing. What's up with that? Again, the dialogue doesn't give a satisfactory explanation.

Why is it that the woman gets there so far ahead of the Sheriff?

Why did the woman kill her horse? The obvious answer of drawing Will and Coley to her assistance seems to be an awfully high stakes gamble against the odds.

Leland didn't seem to think he had anything to fear. So why did he get killed and Coley didn't (initially).

If Billy wanted to kill Coley, why didn't he do it the night he killed Leland?

Why wasn't Coin (Coan?) "running" faster and why did he trust the Bearded Man and yet leave him to die?

What did the Bearded man tell Coley?

What exactly was Coley trying to accomplish in the minutes leading up to his death?

One might notice that I've switched from clues to questions. If anyone thinks they have easy, or certain, answers to the questions or conclusion from the clues, then they are missing the point of the movie.

One last thing, pay careful attention to the colors of the horses and the horses legs.
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6/10
Rare and complex Western by Monte Hellman that tells hows a group pursues an unknown rider
ma-cortes29 September 2009
This especial Western with allegoric qualities deals with a mysterious woman (Millie Perkins who wore a hairpiece) bent on vengeance , she forms a group (Will Hutchins and Warren Oates who in his biography he said that he had a crush on co-star Millie) to escort her across a warming desert . Later on , the posse is joined to a cocky gunfighter (Jack Nicholson) until a surprising finale.

Outlandish and difficult western is packed with thrills , exciting pursuits , noisy gun-play and strong performances . Written , produced (along with an uncredited Roger Corman) and starred by Jack Nicholson . Most budget was spent on the salaries for the horse wranglers , who along with the cast were the only union element in the picture . The slight budget was wasted on near constant rains ; in fact , very little was accomplished in the first two days of filming because of the severe flooding in the areas that were chosen as key locations . It is well set against the hot barren background and splendidly photographed landscapes by Gregory Sandor . Cinematographer Sandor shot the bulk of this film using natural light . Made back to back with ¨Ride the whirlwind¨ (where some cowboys are mistaken for members of a band) , both of them bear similar cast , cameraman , director and technicians.

This offbeat and strange motion picture filmed in 1965 was well directed by the maverick Monte Hellman , being firstly shown at the Montreal Film Festival in Canada . His movies are full of similarly independent-minded stars as Jack Nicholson and Warren Oates (his habitual actor) and result to be appreciated by the critics but virtually suffer lukewarm reception by the public . His firsts films were produced by Roger Corman , two horror quickies in low budget , titled ¨The beast from haunted cave (1959)¨ and ¨Back door to hell (64)¨ . After that , he directed two intelligent Western filmed concurrently in 1967 , and ¨Two-lane blacktop (71)¨, describing the underbelly of American life , furthermore ¨Cockfighter (74)¨, a not easily approachable film and sometimes nor even easy understandable . Later on , Hellman has not got his balance right , film-making flops as the Western ¨China 9, Liberty 37 (1979)¨, adventures ¨Iguana (88) and commercial terror as ¨Silent night, deadly night 3 (1989)¨. Nowadays, Hellman only makes failed B movies and television series .
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6/10
"Gonna be a bunch of ugly work I tell 'ya."
classicsoncall27 October 2015
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I guess if you want to talk yourself into believing this movie makes some sense you could do so. There are some well presented reviews here that make a pretty good case for it, but if it takes twisting yourself into a pretzel to make all the pieces fit, why wouldn't it be just as good an idea to have a story with a beginning, middle and an end?

I'll say one thing though, I've never seen a Western before where so many horses just disappear and reappear again. The woman (Millie Perkins) must have let the mule go free, but what happened to Coley's horse in the desert? Pretty convenient that there was a bearded old guy with a broken leg in the middle of the desert so Coley (Will Hutchins) could catch a ride again. And I'm not really sure why the woman's white horse that she shot for no reason wound up dying all over again - was that an editing mistake, a mirage, a delusion, what?

Having Jack Nicholson arrive looking all real strong and pretty was a nice touch, and I had to do a double take when he said it not once but twice - "You talking to me"? It makes perfect sense that Travis Bickle would have been inspired by gunslinger Billy Spear ten years later in "Taxi Driver". He would have been right at home in this picture.
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Answers (warning: some spoilers)
curtis-813 January 2003
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Questions posed by a previous poster:

#1: Who is this woman?

She is the wife of the man and mother of the child killed by Will Gashade's brother, Coin. Mentioned at opening of film.

#2: How are she and Billy related? He is a gunfighter she hired to help her avenge her husband and child. Whether he is anything more is unclear.

#3: Why does she want to kill Gashade's brother? Because he ran over and killed her husband and child when on a drunken rampage in town.

#4: Why does Gashade help her track his brother down? In hopes of stopping the killing before it happens. If he doesn't go with them under that pretense, they will be out to kill him before he gets to Coin.

That much is clear.

Now,as for another poster's question: why the woman wouldn't shoot Will Gashade on sight when he looks exactly like Coin, I couldn't say. Except that it's just more pretentious to have two Warren Oates at the end of the picture. And pretension is pretty much all this picture is about.
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6/10
Perkins has got to go
jonathan-57716 March 2007
One of Hellman's 'existential' genre flicks from the 60s-70s cusp. Warren Oates and his skittish cohort Will Hutchins are hired by Millie Perkins (the star of "The Diary of Anne Frank") to help her navigate the desert to the next urban centre, or so she says. Soon she is joined by sharpshooter Jack Nicholson, who keeps the boys in line until the surprise ending. There are a lot of neat twists on western convention here - the woman is urbane and sickly, Hutchins is completely incompetent, and as they battle each other everyone is battling the desert as it grinds em down. Unfortunately, several rock solid performances are arrayed around the stilted and extremely irritating Perkins, who is so unappealing that you don't know what everybody sees in her. It's quite majestic for such a tiny-scaled movie, with some truly memorable images, but I also found it more portentous than the content justified, ultimately. The ending is pretty abrupt. Admittedly the sound on my VHS is atrocious which didn't help. Still pretty far out for a low budget western, and enough rewards to at least mitigate the drags.
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7/10
Superby photographed, but...
JohnHowardReid23 August 2014
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According to the DVD's synopsis, the Jack Nicholson character is supposed to be the villain, but I found this statement far from convincing in the movie itself, particularly as the movie makes no mention as to why he is being sought out. Once again, we have to depend upon the DVD's synopsis rather than on what we are told by the characters in the film. Fortunately, the story's four principal players are stunningly photographed against a series of awesome natural settings, but even these begin to pall before the movie has run its course. All told, this is a somewhat pretentious western that tends to out-stay its welcome. Worst of all, it comes to a rather abrupt and most unsatisfying conclusion. Oddly, although as stated above, the motivation of the central character played by Millie Perkins remained a complete mystery to me from first to last, I see that it is actually spelled out on the liner notes to the excellent El Paso DVD, but I'm still not convinced. My feeling is that the producer simply ran out of money, and that's why the movie ends rather abruptly, literally in mid-flight.
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6/10
Corman Takes On the Western Genre
gavin69423 December 2014
Willet Gashade (Warren Oates), a former bounty hunter, returns to his small mining camp after a lengthy absence and finds his slow-witted friend Coley (Will Hutchins) in a state of fear. Coley explains to Gashade that their partner, Leland Drum (B. J. Merholz), had been shot to death two days before by an unseen assassin. Also starring a young Jack Nicholson.

In 1964, Monte Hellman and Jack Nicholson had made two films together, "Back Door to Hell" and "Flight to Fury", which were produced by Roger Corman and filmed back-to-back in the Philippines. This film was very much in the same vein, this time shot back-to-back with "Ride in the Whirlwind". Nicholson's history with Corman is well-known, but Hellman's career also came from Corman. His first directing gig was "Beast from Haunted Cave" (1959), a Corman film, which was followed up with an uncredited stint on "The Terror" (with Nicholson). In fact, Hellman did not really blossom outside Corman's domain until "Two-Lane Blacktop" (1971).

The film was written by first-time screenwriter Carole Eastman, who would soon write "Five Easy Pieces", another Jack Nicholson vehicle (and much later the Nicholson film "Man Trouble"). As with many involved, she was a Corman veteran, having been responsible for the music in Corman's "Creature from the Haunted Sea" (1961).

It was not until 1968 that the U.S. distribution rights were purchased by the Walter Reade Organization, the same company that distributed "Night of the Living Dead" (1968). No other domestic distributor had expressed any interest in the films. Walter Reade decided to bypass a theatrical release, and the two titles were sold directly to television. In retrospect, it seems bizarre that this film fell into obscurity, but who could have predicted Nicholson's rise to stardom?
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3/10
Pointless and Unsatisfying
Freedom0602862 September 2015
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Why do some of the critics like movies like this one? How pretentious and silly is it to give a movie a high rating because it's poorly-written? The story makes little sense, it's like something a person who had never written a story or screenplay before might come up with.

Why would a woman try to hire a man to kill his own twin brother? Why was the man at the mine shot in the face, and who shot him? Why did Willett not pick up a canteen of water when he continued on after he crushed Billy's gun hand? Why did the woman not shoot Willett when he was about to strike Billy with the rock?

Some of the characters introduced in the movie were not explained or developed. Like the bearded man - what was his role in the story?

I would have given this movie a 1 or a 2 rating if not for the cinematography, which is very good considering the budget and quality of equipment they had to work with.
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8/10
A subversive western
howard.schumann22 August 2005
"Did I tell you to do something?" - Billy "I don't give a curly-hair, yellow-bear, double dog damn if you did" - Coley

Four people ride across the desert tracking a killer but it is not clear who they really are and who it is they are looking for. In Monte Hellman's subversive western The Shooting, just released for the first time on DVD, Warren Oates is Willett Gashade, a bounty hunter turned mine owner who returns to find his brother Coin missing, his partner dead, and a fellow worker in a state of panic. When a strange woman shows up, the three set out on a journey with an unknown destination that leads to a final bizarre confrontation. The Shooting has more questions than you can find on the SAT and it is often a frustrating challenge to fit the pieces together. Hellman shot the film on a limited budget in eighteen days in the desert country near Kanab, Utah with B-movie producer Roger Corman and a young actor named Jack Nicholson.

It was released to television and did not play in the theater until years later after it developed a cult following in Europe. The quality of the transfer is impeccable but the dialogue borders on the incomprehensible. Slow-witted but good humored Coley (Will Hutchins) is fearful as he tells Gashade that he was asleep when he heard an argument between Willett's partner Leland Drum and Coin. He says that Colin fled, and Leland was shot dead by an unseen gunman and tells Gashade something about Coin having ridden down "a man and a little person, maybe a child," but Coley's not sure about that. Soon, a woman (Millie Perkins) who is not named arrives and offers to pay Gashade to guide her to Kingsley, a town that lies some hours away, beyond a dangerous desert. The woman is abrasive and complaining but Coley takes to her immediately while Willett is distanced and aloof.

Mystery piles upon mystery. When the riding party sets out, the woman asks to be led in the wrong direction without offering any explanation. The woman shoots her horse claiming it was lame but it turns out have no broken bones. When asked why she shot the horse, after a long period of silence, she can only muster a feeble smile. Along the way, Coley, Willett and the woman meet up with Billy Spears (Nicholson), a nattily dressed gunman with a sadistic smirk, and it becomes apparent that the purpose of the journey may be to track down the person or persons responsible for shooting Leland. Beyond that it is anyone's guess as to what the film means and an unforgettable climax does not clear up the confusion.

The director has said that The Shooting is a mirror of the Kennedy assassination where doubt remains about what actually happened on that day, but the connection is murky. Whatever its ultimate meaning, The Shooting is an involving ride full of twists and turns and Jack Nicholson's mighty performance as Billy is worth the price of admission. Actually the meaning may be revealed when Gashade says to Millie, "If I heard your name I wouldn't know it, would I?" She says, "No." Then he says, "then I don't see no point to it." She says, "there isn't any." Perhaps like life, The Shooting doesn't mean anything. It's just there to grab your attention.
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7/10
Weird desert-survival 60's Western with Jack Nicholson & Warren Oates
Wuchakk12 March 2014
"The Shooting" is an offbeat 1966 Western directed by Monte Hellman and written by Carole Eastman (using the pseudonym "Adrien Joyce"). The story involves two men (Warren Oates and Will Hutchins) who are hired by a mysterious woman (Millie Perkins) to accompany her to a town located many miles across the Utah desert. During their journey they are tracked and joined by a mysterious black-clad gunslinger (Jack Nicholson) who is known by the woman.

This early Nicholson vehicle is worthwhile if you have a taste for out-of-the-ordinary films. Millie Perkins is fetching and Will Hutchins is a convincing youngster sidekick while Oates is a good every-man protagonist and Nicholson just oozes quiet antagonism. It's easy too see how the 'kid' would be infatuated by the cutie, despite her dubiousness, but it's even easier to understand Willet's grave suspicions. The movie is also a must for anyone who likes lost-in-the-desert flicks.

While the ending seems nonsensical, the answers are there, if you look closely and chew on the details...

***SPOILER ALERT*** (Don't read this paragraph unless you've seen the film). As the story progresses it becomes clear that the woman is hunting Oates' brother who apparently killed a child or a midget, likely the woman's child, close friend or relative. When they finally catch up to him at the very end we discover that the supposed murderer is Willet's TWIN brother who looks exactly like him, which explains his name, Coin (as in, 'the other side of the coin'). Since this is so, why didn't the woman assume Willett (Oates) was the person who killed her child since he looks exactly like the one who did, Coin? Obviously she was informed that Coin had a twin brother living near the town and she felt he would be the best person to track the culprit. In any case, the twin brothers represent the duality of human nature: Willet symbolizes the good and positive side whereas Coin embodies the more destructive aspects of our nature. As such, the Gashade brothers symbolize the two converging sides of the existential coin pertaining to the human experience which come together with catastrophic results at the climax. ***END SPOILER***

Bottom line: "The Shooting" is a worthy bare-bones independent 60's Western with occasional flashes of surrealism and brilliance, as well as a lot of humdrum mundaneness (so be prepared for some slow, dull stretches). It's less straightforward than its sister film "Ride in the Whirlwind," which was made just before this one and on the same (or nearby) locations. Some have called it the first "acid Western" but I wouldn't go that far. It has some weird touches, but not too weird.

The film runs 82 minutes and was shot in Kanab, Utah.

GRADE: B/B- (6.5/10)
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1/10
Depressing idiotic ripoff of better westerns
drystyx22 June 2006
There is a fallacy among some critics that good acting can make a bad script into a good movie. That depends on how bad the script is. This was a totally terrible script. I can comment that the actors did a great job, and Will Hutchins outshone everybody. Surprisingly, it was Nicholson who gave the worst performance, but thats because his character was nothing more than a complete ripoff of Jack Palance's gunslinger in "Shane," to every movement and mannerism. The story is bewildering, to say the least. The woman who hires Oates to find the person who accidentally killed what is probably her son or brother, leaves no doubt as to her madness in the desert. So it is insane to think Oates would have gone along with her, much less dragged Hutchins with him, without having extra horses and water. Nothing makes sense in the film, which was the obvious intention, but the characters don't make sense, either. Particularly in their initial decisions to make an insane journey. Everything is quite predictable and utterly depressing. There is no entertainment value in this movie, whatsoever. And nothing learned. Rips off images and scenes from better westerns, and leaves the viewer asleep. Bomb.
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8/10
An Alternate View
DotarSojat30 August 2020
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I'm saddened by the many negative reviews I've read here. But I can see why the film's a cult favorite...and why it's not for everyone. I loved it.

Bearing in mind that what the message the audience takes from a film is never necessarily the message that the makers themselves intend, here's my take:

What if Willett and his "brother" Coigne are really the same person...and this is all an ALLEGORY--not to be understood in a literal sense? What if Willett and Billy Spear are the same person? During the journey, when Willett smashes Spear's hand with a rock he's actually smashing his own hand in a (vain) effort to keep this entire scenario from happening again and again. (Notably, Willett has a bandaged hand at the start of the film, when we see him leaving a trail of flour for the woman ("Death") to follow--thereby literally sowing the seeds of his own destruction). Thus, it was Willett who killed the "woman and child" in town; it's also Willett (in the form of the flip side of the...Coigne) who killed Leland (through his other persona of Billy). In the end Death shoots Willett/Coigne...and the circular process begins anew, as Billy/Willett/Coigne endlessly wanders the desert--a pawn in the meaningless game we call Life. ;)
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6/10
A somewhat confused if rewarding effort
funkyfry21 September 2009
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A reluctant bounty hunter (Warren Oates) and his naive hireling (Will Hutchins) are hired by a mysterious woman (Millie Perkins) to help her track down an unknown man. Along the way they're joined by the sadistic gunman (Jack Nicholson) she's hired to finish the job. Rancor and jealousy undermine the group as they pursue a quarry that may well mean death for them all.

It's an interesting attempt at a psychological western that I think doesn't completely work. What really undermines the movie isn't so much Hellman's slow pace, which I had no problem with, but rather some poor casting of the leads. Perkins can barely speak her dialog without looking like she's reading off a queue card, and Hutchins is just one of the actors on this film who seems to be hopped up on amphetamines or something. On the other hand, there's absolutely no problem with Oates or Nicholson, two excellent actors having a good time playing off each other. In Oates' and Hellman's masterpiece, "Two-Lane Blacktop", the contrast between the good and the amateur actors in the film actually enhanced the cinema experience because it was a good parallel to the characters. But in this one it just feels like Hellman's odd fascination with Perkins (who starred in quite a few of his more serious films) is undermining things.

Right up to the rather rushed existential ending, which anybody with half a brain can see coming a mile away, and the whole scene with Perkins rushing up the hill after this man (reminiscent of Jennifer Jones in "Duel in the Sun"), the film kept me glued to the set. It's an interesting film because it's so much more low-key than most American westerns of the time period. It's a departure from the big epics of the time and it's not as gimmicky and busy as the Italian westerns (although the music is reminiscent of the spaghetti style). For those seeking a more character-oriented western, this is a very god bet. I only wish they had enough money to hire a couple better actors to compliment Nicholson and Oates.
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2/10
The emperor has no clothes
AlsExGal6 January 2019
Criterion what WERE you thinking to put this in your collection? This is one of the worst films of any genre I have ever seen. How exactly do you make a film with Jack Nicholson in it this bad?

Millie Perkins plays a woman of mystery who shoots her perfectly healthy horse because she said it had a broken leg, then she offers the guy who comes running at the sound of the gunshot - Gashade (Warren Oates) - big money to lead her across the desert to a place named Kingsley. He agrees, and his friend Coley, smitten with the girl, comes along. Eventually a gunslinger (Jack Nicholson) joins them. The girl is rude, makes stupid decisions, and refuses to explain herself, the gunslinger keeps threatening to kill everybody for no particular reason, they are following somebody but the girl won't tell them who it is, and for some reason - maybe curiosity, maybe Darwin at work - Gashade won't turn back and just say, in the words of Han Solo, "No reward is worth this!"

The dialogue is non-existent, the acting is bad, and the girl has some kind of aversion to being touched even when it is to render her aid when she faints. The end is confounding, and yet I hear people heap praise on it. I was unfortunate enough to see it in 1971 when it had its only American theatre release. I 've seen it a couple of times recently on Turner Classic Movies, and it has not improved with age.
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A primeval western experience
chaos-rampant12 July 2008
As far as westerns go, the 60's were all about Italy and the spaghetti western. By 1967 the ripples Leone's movies are about to make in the American film-making business are around the corner, which leaves The Shooting hanging in a peculiar time and place. Too out there to be appreciated by the traditional western crowd of the 50's and not as cynic and hard-boiled as the spaghetti western-influenced works of the early 70's.

But it succeeds exactly because of that. Monte Hellman crafts a mesmeric, primeval, ultimately existential western that exists in a parallel western universe. A mythic world of some other order. That it refuses to sit down and explain what is going on with the plot is a testament to the film's strength. Not everything needs to be explained. It's all about the impression images make. Impressionistic in that aspect but also surreal. Very. Who is the woman? Who is Billy and the bearded man? As Warren Oates, Jack Nicholson (in an early role here but showing the potential he would fulfill later on in his career) travel through the barren desert, in search of something or someone, The Shooting slowly but gradually peels back the layers of conventional film-making to reveal an off-beat, gritty and fascinating movie. Some of the editing used by Hellman (day to night and vice versa) only serves to disorient the viewer more.

Not only is this a rare, one of a kind western but in all its psychotronic, b-movie glory, it's one of the best of its kind America has to offer. Kudos to Hellman for not refusing to take chances.
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7/10
Woman With No Name
AaronCapenBanner17 November 2014
Monte Hellman directed this strikingly unique, original, yet experimental western that stars Millie Perkins as a mysterious woman with no revealed name who hires two cowboys named Willit & Coley(played by Warren Oates & Will Hutchins) to track down a man for mysterious reasons, though it appears to be Willit's brother who may have been involved in an accidental death with another cowboy who is later shot dead. Jack Nicholson costars as a cold-blooded gunfighter assisting the woman in the hunt, which leads them to the barren hot desert and a surprise ending, which will no doubt either intrigue or infuriate the viewer, but fine acting and direction keep it on track, especially by Perkins.
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7/10
A Woman with a Hidden Agenda
Uriah437 October 2020
This film begins with a cowboy by the name of "Willett 'Willie' Gashade" (Warren Oates) riding into a mining area he and three other men have set up only to find it somewhat deserted. Suddenly, gunshots ring out and he is forced to take cover. He then discovers that the gunfire is coming from a colleague named "Coley" (Will Hutchens) who has recently witnessed the cold-blooded murder of one of the other miners and has fired upon Willie inadvertently. It's also at this time that Coley tells him that apparently Willie's brother "Coigne" (also played by Warren Oates) had accidentally killed a child accidentally in town and had ridden off after their other colleague was shot and killed. Not long after that a strange woman (played by Millie Perkins) rides into town who refuses to give her name but offers Willie $1000 is she will help her get to the town of Kingsley which is about 30 miles away over inhospitable terrain. Initially reluctant at first he subsequent agrees due to pressure from Coley who seems to be attracted to her. Along the way, however, she does several things that arouses Willie's suspicions and they are confirmed once they are joined by a gunslinger named "Billy Spear" (Jack Nicholson). Now rather than reveal any more I will just say that this was a rather odd but still entertaining Western which featured a unique plot and good performances by both Jack Nicholson and Warren Oates. Admittedly, the ending was a bit vague and could have been handled better but all things considered I still enjoyed this film and have rated it accordingly. Above average.
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6/10
Artiness For Artiness's Sake
theognis-8082123 September 2023
Hollywood, in the 1960s was a locale rife with young visionaries, sometimes stoned, wandering about like starets in Tsarist Russia. But Roger Corman always had an eye out for serious, energetic, responsible young filmmakers, like Monte Hellman, who could put a movie together on the cheap. "The Shooting" has a great virtue: the unique talent of Warren Oates, who could project simultaneously, and with seeming ease, both strength and anxiety. The props, costumes and desert scenery of Kanab all serve this western well, even if its dramaturgy is weak. It seems more like an "idea," stretched out to 82 minutes, than an involving, logical plot.
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1/10
1960s Western Existentialism
Johnny_West15 December 2019
The 1960s had a lot of really bad Westerns that tried to bring existentialism to the West, and usually failed. Before Jack Nicholson became famous in Easy Rider, he did a lot of TV guest appearances and many horrible low budget movies. The Shooting is a perfect example.

With a cast of four main characters, you get to spend two hours listening to them argue and watching them give each other mysterious glances, as they track down a mystery villain. The twist is that one of them is the mystery villain.

Jack Nicholson was working on his slow laid back way of talking, really hard in this movie. He takes a minute or two to say anything. Like "follow that trail" takes a full minute, and he stops between each word and glances at everyone, like it was God talking. This film is insanely boring to watch, and it was shot on low-budget grainy film.

This movie has very little action. It is just the same characters menacing each other for 90 minutes. The pointless dialogue is the worst part of it. It could have been a silent movie, and it would have been better. There is no upside to this movie.
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8/10
strange, dark western with something going on beneath its B-movie surface
Quinoa19843 March 2008
The Shooting shouldn't be any great shakes when it comes to westerns. That's the case at least in terms of production value. It was shot on a more-or-less-comparable shoestring budget alongside Ride in the Whirlwind by Monte Hellman, and both feature actors like Harry Dean Stanton, Millie Perkins, Warren Oates, and of course Jack Nicholson. They seem to have a tenth of most a common Hollywood budget, and especially with the Shooting you really need to pay attention at times (or just glance repeatedly at the video box description) to understand what's going on. But there's something to it, something that defines it through the mood and execution that drives up the material, provided in what seems to be a one-time-only genre exercise from Five Easy Pieces writer Carol Eastman, to a more interesting plain. As the dead end these characters are facing is going further along, the desert sun is pushing down more and more, a crushing weight on a tense atmosphere where death seems to be just at the blink of an eye.

That's at least as deep as it gets anyway. While Nicholson's Whirlwind script might have dealt better with the existential motifs (whatever they may be in interpretation), the Shooting is good for, at least, its bedrock of a story and some of its acting. Oates plays a cowboy who along with a slightly dim but alert younger cowboy are hired by a woman (just called Woman, played by Perkins with a bit of a b***h streak in a so-so turn almost in spite of a great presence to her character) who wants them to take her across a ways to a small town. Why they're hired they can't figure, and it bugs Oates all the more when another fellow starts to follow them: Billy (Nicholson), a bounty hunter with few words, black gloves and a streak of tough-guy talk whenever he speaks, follows along with them also getting a cut of the stake at hand from the Woman. Turns out there might be more than meets the eye to this mission.

What the Shooting provides best as is a creative sense of the unusual beneath what should come out of some 2nd rate paperback book. There's violence brimming at the seams, and in certain visuals, like the flashback early in the film with the character outside the ten who just keels over in the shade of blue all over. Or the figure of the bearded man with the broken leg out in the desert, who from far away looks like a weird shape until his arm moves (another doomed creature). And the climax, while at the very end needlessly ambiguous to what may or may not be a twin or revenge or whatever (not that it detracts from the mood much), has also a spirit that goes aways to make this just a tinge more than what we're expecting, from the performances and the script.

It takes a little while to start, but once the halfway mark comes and Nicholson comes on the scene- in possibly his first significant bad-ass role- it improves into something like a precursor to the recent Seraphim Falls. An obscure, dated but interesting find from talented indie filmmakers.
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6/10
Typical western... 'nuff said
bellino-angelo20147 November 2023
While I don't usually watch a steady diet of westerns I sometimes watch them for the actors and I end up liking them very much. And since this was one of Jack Nicholson's earliest movies, I knew that I had to see it.

Willet Gashade (Warren Oates) returns in his cabin only to discover that his brother escaped after accidentally killing a man and his child because he was in a drunken state. The next day a mysterious woman with no name (Millie Perkins) arrives and wants to be escorted in the desert. The journey starts and the more it progresses, the more there are issues: the woman refuses to reveal her true identity and the reason of her mission, and often shoots in the air perhaps for being noticed by an unseen somebody. After some banter the woman reveals about her mysterious chaser: cynical and vicious gunman Billy Spear (Nicholson). The trip continues and then there is the big confrontation with Willet that stops Spear hitting his hand with a stone but we don't see who died in the shootout.

At the beginning it looked promising but as it progressed not only it became like at least 1000 other movies of the genre but a bit confusing. When it was over I scratched my head and had to re-watch the ending because I didn't understood who was killed, how it unfolded and if it wasn't for this I would have given a higher score.

Only of interest for die-hard western fans or Nicholson completist but apart from these two categories of viewers, not worth bothering for.
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3/10
I urge you to not waste your time.
jscottmoss30 January 2021
I only gave this three stars because of the good acting from the cast. The story was horrific and exhausting. There are too many plot holes and unexplained events to list. I am shocked at the high reviews of this disaster of a movie. Some see this as complicated and misunderstood. I see it as an utter mess that must have been written by an eighth grader.
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9/10
Monte Hellman hits it out of the park with this unique and surprising Western gem
Woodyanders21 July 2015
Warning: Spoilers
Shrewd bounty hunter Willett Gashade (the incomparable Warren Oates, who's splendid in his first meaty lead role) and his dimwitted partner Coley (amiable Will Hutchins) are hired by an angry and mysterious woman (well played with fierce intensity by Millie Perkins) to track down a man who has run off into the desert. They are eventually joined on their search by lethal gunslinger Billy Spear (a nicely sinister portrayal by Jack Nicholson).

Director Monte Hellman relates the absorbing story at a hypnotically gradual pace, makes inspired use of the barren and desolate countryside, and offers a laudably harsh and unsentimental evocation of the old west. Carole Eastman's compelling and philosophical script provides a fascinating and provocative meditation on the duality of the human condition -- Willett and his identical twin brother Coin, who's ultimately revealed as the man they are tracking who apparently killed the woman's child in some kind of tragic accident, represent the contrasting sides of the existential coin pertaining to both good and evil which converge at the climax with catastrophic results -- as well as the ugly and corrosive nature of revenge (the woman shoots a white horse early in the movie and rides a black horse while embarking on her dark journey into the desert, thus symbolizing the savage spiritual damage done to her soul in the name of vengeance). The starling ending packs a devastating punch. Further enhanced by Gregory Sandor's beautifully stark cinematography and Richard Markowitz's moody score, this film completely deserves its cult status.
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6/10
intriguing premise
SnoopyStyle28 July 2016
Willett Gashade (Warren Oates) returns to his mining camp to find Coley (Will Hutchins) in a fright. Coley tells him that his brother Coin had walked away and their other partner Leland Drum got killed a couple of days earlier. A mysterious woman (Millie Perkins) finds herself at the camp after shooting her lame horse. Willett finds the dead horse not injured. She offers them $1000 to take her to Kingsley. Willett accepts despite not trusting her. They are followed by gunman Billy Spear (Jack Nicholson) who seems to be communicating with the nameless woman.

This has an intriguing premise. It's one that seems foreseeable. Some version of that ending was always expected. The movie brings out the mystery but the intensity could be higher. Oates is solid. On the other hand, Perkins' acting is a little flat. Her role could have been really juicy but she doesn't bring it. It's an intriguing indie western.
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3/10
Why was Jack Nicholson employable after this?
howlandowl8 January 2001
Director Monte Hellman has been lauded for shooting two movies at the same time for the rumored price of $150,000. An impressive feat, but a duplicatable one, as long as one isn't concerned about sound. Or plot. Or character development. As Hellman apparently wasn't when he made this film. The dialogue is often incomprehensible, especially unfortunate since this leaves us with a movie depending heavily on shots of people riding to carry it. The Shooting isn't even able to resolve the meagre elements of a plot it has. It sets up a reasonable premise, albeit excrutiatingly slowly, wherein this one guy somehow related to our heroes has been shot for inscrutiable reasons by persons unknown. And this mysterious girl comes along and hires our heroes to escort her to her destination. So they ride. And they ride. They ride for a long time. Boy howdy, do they ride! And then Jack Nicholson shows up and, wouldn't you know it, they ride some more! So we have a bunch of people that we don't really know anything about riding. And eventually, there's some fairly undramatic shooting, thinly living up to the promise of the title, an inexplicable slow motion sequence, and then, while resolving nothing in the process, the movie, mercifully, ends. At this stage, bafflement, followed by a slow sensation that one's better off not thinking about it, is normal.
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