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5/10
JUST FOR HAWKS
rsoonsa23 February 2004
John Wayne narrates the lion's share of this documentary released in 1970 that has a specific purpose, i.e., to shift the opinion of the public to favour support of the U. S. war against North Vietnam and the Viet Cong during a time when America's cultural atmosphere was strongly antagonistic towards this country's involvement; unhappily for the individuals selected to offer their viewpoints, such as Generals Mark Clark and Albert Wedemeyer, journalist Lowell Thomas, and others, they stare straight into the camera's eye as they haltingly read their lines, detracting from their shared message, one that certainly includes salient points relative to politician interference with and control of our armed forces' efforts and the subsequent demoralization of servicemen; a yet greater reason for the production's eventual failure to persuade is its twisted view of historical events, replete with inaccuracy despite inclusion of captivating footage; in sum, an interesting cinematic document of a dramatic period in our nation's history.
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5/10
Grainy anti-communist documentary
Leofwine_draca16 December 2017
Warning: Spoilers
NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY is a straight-up propaganda documentary designed to denounce the evils of communism. It's presented by the notoriously right-wing John Wayne, who talks from behind a desk while other military leaders are interviewed throughout. The film was made to support America's presence in Vietnam so there's a great deal of footage from that country's war, alongside topics including the Second World War, the Cold War, and the rise of Leninism in Russia. Sadly, the whole thing is quite poor-looking and grainy throughout, although historians will get a kick out of the endless rhetoric.
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5/10
Wartime propaganda
rlippman-215 June 2011
This film gets 5 out of 10 stars for accurately portraying the American point of view on the Vietnam War from a right wing, hawkish perspective. There is absolutely no counter argument made, and any and all contradictory facts (of which any historian worth his salt could find an overwhelming number) are deliberately omitted. If you're unfamiliar with the extreme right-wing take on Vietnam, then there is value in seeing this film. But don't expect to walk away from it knowing the truth of what happened, or what went wrong in Vietnam during America's campaign in Southeast Asia.

Sadly, the well worn points made in this film about the military "having to fight with one hand, or both hands, tied behind its back", the fingers pointed at the traitorous liberal media and politicians inexplicably siding with communists, have been taken as articles of faith by vast numbers of people today. The actual facts are far more subtle.

In truth, America had many successes in Vietnam - both political and military, but failed to properly understand and capitalize on them or see the bigger picture until too late. Ironically, the positions taken in "No Substitute for Victory" in support of the war, are among the main reasons why the Communists prevailed. American impatience with the pace of victory and frustration in coping with an enemy using asymmetrical battle tactics led to a widening of the war, including carpet bombing and the resulting 'collateral damage', which in turn lost us the very 'hearts and minds' that we needed to win in order to take popular support away from the Communists. At the same time, propaganda (like this film) and outright lies by the military (inflated body counts, deliberately under reporting enemy numbers) led to wide scale disillusionment and loss of credibility with the American people.

Rather than own up to America's tactical and political blunders - which would make American a more powerful and effective champion of the freedoms it stands for and hopes to spread around the world, movies like this put the blame on easy targets (hippies, traitors in the media and government) and in doing so, miss the point of history entirely and, worse of all, perpetuate a culture war that continues to divide us as a people.
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8/10
For Fans of the Green Berets (get the new DVD version)
politico8131 October 2006
I've been a big fan of the Duke since my Dad used to show me his movies when I was younger. The Green Berets has always been one of my favorites. This movie is the perfect real life companion to that movie. And the Roan Group just put out a new edition which combines new interviews with the original 1970 footage. There's a senator from California named Dana Rohrabacher, who was a big supporter of Ronald Reagan in the 1980s (or so it seems from the countless pictures of him with Reagan on his office walls), Major General John Singlaub, and Tony Blankley, who edits for the Washington Times and is a TV commentator. Pretty interesting perspectives. The Duke would be proud.
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Knee Slapping Hilarity
chris-251227 October 2009
This would truly be the most hilarious film ever made if it wasn't so tragic. In this 70 minute blast-from-the-past, John Wayne uses everyone from Hitler to Stalin to liberal college professors (gasp!) in an attempt to persuade America not to give up on what was surely one of the most awful, despicable wars ever fought.

Everything Big Duke Wayne says in this right-wing agit-pop has been thoroughly disproved by history but that shouldn't keep you from loving his mouth-frothing reactionary madness.

What's amazing is that W. Bush literally re-iterated the Duke's view during his presidency when he famously said that the real lesson of Vietnam was that the US didn't go FAR ENOUGH!!! In reality, that was probably the only lesson the American-Vietnam War DIDN'T teach us.

Cringe-inducing. Watch it and cry.
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4/10
Interesting...though not especially well made.
planktonrules13 October 2021
When I was looking for things to watch on my Amazon Fire, I was surprised to find this very obscure documentary from 1971 which starred John Wayne. And, as a retired US History teacher, I did find it interesting....though flawed.

Wayne hosts the film and introduces a variety of people sharing his views on how the Vietnam War should be fought. One thing about the war that is often forgotten is that although it was unpopular in later years, much of this was due to HOW the war was being fought and many were not against the US being at war but the politicians' running of the war. This is a big part of the show...pushing for politicians to stop micromanaging the war and let the men fight an all-out war. This aspect of the film is interesting and if fought this way, the war MIGHT have been won by the US and South Vietnam. Apart from this aspect of the film, I did find that the film never questioned why the US went to war there in the first place and some of the history lesson given by Lowell Thomas was suspect...such as him calling Lenin 'Vladimir' (a common mistake...but he was NO Vlad). I also was surprised when he mentioned that Charles Lingburgh was a war hawk in WWII...which was completely untrue. Lindburgh was actually pro-Hitler in the 1930s and only became pro-war after the US was attacked.

So is it any good? It's okay...and, oddly enough, the worst part about it was Wayne's poor delivery of his lines. It also didn't help that there were CONSTANT refrains from the song "The Ballad of the Green Berets"...to the point of inducing nausea. As far as a history lesson, while not always accurate, it did provide an interesting insight into how the war might have been successfully fought. Overall, a film most people probably wouldn't watch in the first place, but at least the history teacher in me found a few things to like.
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5/10
John Wayne's the face of the single Vietnam flick . . .
oscaralbert26 July 2016
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. . . MORE boring than THE GREEN BERETS. As "host" of NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY, the only books he refers to are by some Russian dude named Lenin. Wayne is such an ardent student of Lenin that he urges viewers to rush out and buy their own copies of Lenin's works 31:48 into this yawner. Wayne has a couple of Vietnam veterans on-screen here, but their war stories are dull and boring. The only guy whose tale rings true is the infamous "Hanoi Jane's" husband, Tom Hayden. Somehow Wayne's crew misses Capt. Ernest Medina and Lt. William Calley, Jr., who spear-headed America's victory in the Battle of My Lai (the most lop-sided U.S. Military Triumph since the Army Cleaned Up at Wounded Knee, SD, in 1890). We learn from a half dozen American general officers that Republican President Eisenhower vetoed a sure and decisive U.S. victory in the Korean War, and that later Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger similarly "is" taking the same path of snatching defeat from the jaws of a sure victory in Vietnam as this film is being shot. We are told that "the Free World will crumble" if Vietnam is ever unified, and that Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan, and Australia will turn Communist within weeks of Saigon's fall. Wayne concludes with what sounds like a call for Republican President Dick Nixon's defeat in the 1972 Election, which surely must be taken as an veiled endorsement of Nixon's Democratic Challenger, George McGovern.
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6/10
Parallels to Today Uncanny
brainyidiot27 November 2006
It's easy to dismiss this propaganda film as right-wing rhetoric because of its pro-military view on fighting an unpopular war. John Wayne was a fervent rightist and believer in the fundamentals of a Constitional Republic. That is--besides being a movie superstar. Mr. Wayne's narrative acts as a sort of lead-in to military leaders who comment about the facts of the warfare and politics of Vietnam as they see them, and the consequences of fighting a war they felt Congress didn't have the will to win. Plus there's mention of the 'Liberal Press' not helping matters much by how they report the news. Sound familiar? "If it bleeds it leads" is still prevalent in the media. Many of the arguments in this film could be shifted to what's going on in the war against terrorism. Could be that the tenets of modern warfare have commonalities in any case when it comes to the defense of freedom. Highlights include archival scenes of air attacks, refugees ritualising with their dead, and a whole spectrum of war-torn Vietnam with the American's being fundamentally the good guys. Whether you agree with this film or not, it's a great curio for propaganda film buffs and can be found for typically a dollar in a cheap DVD bin. The film transfer and sound quality are passable for a color film from 1970. Bonus: Check out John Wayne's bad toupee!
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Wayne On the Attack
Michael_Elliott30 January 2018
No Substitute for Victory (1970)

*** (out of 4)

I guess it would be impossible to view something like this documentary without getting overly political but I'm going to try. This documentary was hosted and narrated by John Wayne who talks about how liberals, flag-burning college students, communists and dirty politicians are causing American troops to die in Vietnam.

NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY is called by some a masterpiece of propoganda while others call it something evil and something that tries to promote war and death. I personally wouldn't agree with either of those groups but at the same time it's easy to see why some might be offended by the material and espcially if you're a liberal. Wayne's narration attacks liberals as well as the media for telling lies and not telling the whole story (sound familiar?) and there's no doubt that the film really attacks both parties.

While watching the film, I couldn't help but say that it was well-made for what it was and featured some great interviews with various people who have been in Vietnam and seen what was going on. Is this pure propaganda? Well, of course! That's why it was made. Even if you don't agree with the views and opinions given, the filmmakers and I'm sure Wayne believed in their hearts that they were doing the right thing.
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