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8/10
The Stars Shine in this Simple Story of Love, Friendship, ad Obligation...
ijonesiii18 December 2005
FINNEGAN BEGIN AGAIN was a delightful made for HBO TV movie about a lonely advice columnist (Robert Preston in a lovely performance), trapped into caring for his senile wife (Sylvia Sidney) who develops a relationship with a woman (Mary Tyler Moore) who is equally trapped in a dead end affair with a married man (Sam Waterston). This movie lovingly tells the story of two desperately lonely people, trapped in lives they don't know how to get out of and find solace and friendship in each other. The movie is well-written and directed and the stars, particularly Preston, are just wonderful. I don't know if this one is on DVD but it should be. If you can find it, try to catch this underrated gem.
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8/10
great writing, acting and actors
riverrat-1027 January 2007
Typical Robert Preston acting at his best then add MTM and you have one great movie. Preston seems to be in a rut at work and at home with his ailing wife who is senile and refuses to throw anything. MTM is in almost the same boat but is widowed and having an affair with a funeral parlor owner. And their affair is going nowhere at all. Eventually Robert Preston and MTW meet and start sharing their secrets and lives. Movie is clean and well written, made for both Preston and Moore. The movie touches every nerve in your body with humor, sadness and everything in between. These two old acting pros make this movie shine. Highly recommend seeing it if you can find it. Very rare !
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8/10
Funny, quiet, & touching May December romance
roghache29 March 2006
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This is a lovely tale of two people whose personal stories become revealed and their lives intertwined when they meet by chance on a bus. I agree with others who have compared it to Murphy's Romance, another great comedy romance, starring Sally Field and James Garmer.

Here we have an encounter on a bus between Mike Finnegan, who is a crotchety newspaperman and caretaker for his senile wife, and Liz DeHann, a widowed art teacher en route to a tryst with married lover, Paul, a funeral parlor director. Finnegan prides himself on being able to ferret out other people's character and actions, so guesses Liz's unfortunate situation, naturally much to her displeasure. Nevertheless, as time passes, they exchange life stories and become confidantes and friends, with of course always a possibility of something further developing between them...

The cast are all superb. Mary Tyler Moore, my favorite from her old sitcom days, is convincing as the woman caught in an affair, unhappy but trying to convince herself it's neither immoral nor hopeless, as she clings to the belief that her lover, Paul, will eventually leave his wife for her. Paul is portrayed by Sam Waterston, normally another of my favorites, though his role here, as you might imagine, is pretty sleazy and despicable, in terms of his behavior toward both his wife and Liz. It is really Robert Preston who sparkles here as Finnegan. I was unfamiliar previously with this actor, but he very much reminds me here of the wonderful James Garner. Finnegan makes this story.

This TV movie has a couple of messages, entertainingly but not subtly given. One of course is the sordid nature of the classic affair. Liz and Paul rendezvous in a seedy hotel, arriving separately so as not to arouse suspicion. Also, Paul of course has absolutely no intention of leaving his wife. The other message is the loyalty and devotion of Finnegan to his wife of many years, Margaret, who apparently suffers from dementia, and is truly lost to him in terms of any genuine companionship. Yet, although discouraged, he remains by her side and true to his vows, caring for her and putting up with a household in disarray cased by her condition. So we see two very different husbands, two sharply contrasting views of marriage, in the faithless Paul and the loyal Finnegan.

WARNING: SPOILER...It has both witty dialogue and a touching tale of friendship and love. However, I agree with another reviewer who commented that it's a pity the pair are shown in bed together at the end. Somehow, it seems rather inappropriate for this story.
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10/10
Gentle, witty, funny, quirky and warm
bronty27 June 1999
"Finnegan Begin Again", originally an HBO film, features the great Robert Preston (in his second-to-last film performance) and Mary Tyler Moore in a lovely, gently quirky tale of a May-December romance. Mike Finnegan (Preston), a newspaper columnist who ghosts as an advice-for-the-lovelorn matron, is married to Margaret, a woman who is not only a few years older than he but also suffering from what is apparently (but unnamed) dementia; he accepts the fact that, beyond whatever deep love he may have for his wife, that she is, in fact, lost in the mists of her dreams and recollections, a state reflected in their once-grand home in a once-grand, but now unsafe, area: it is as cluttered with remnants of the past as Margaret's mind, perhaps even more so. By chance - and here the writers have cleverly avoided the "meet cute" - on the bus, Mike meets Liz Dehan, a widowed art teacher, who is on her way to meet the very married Paul, a funeral director, at their usual, seedy motel room. Mike fancies himself an arm-chair Sherlock Holmes, watching people for the sheer interest in them but seeing clues as to what their lives are like, and he openly practices this on Liz, much to her dismay. Despite this tense beginning between them, a warm friendship develops and they find that there may, in fact, be more than friendship at play. Much like other Mary Tyler Moore films, this is played as strictly "dramedy" and it strikes just the right chord while doing it. The chemistry between the cast as a whole, and Moore and Preston in particular, is palpable, warm, and real. The direction, by Joan Micklin Silver, is reliably sure-handed, and serves the film well. It's a funny, warm, lovely movie, one that should appeal not only to an older audience but those younger audiences with mature tastes. Currently available only on VHS, this is certainly a film worth discovering!
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Finnegan Begin Again
Coxer9920 July 1999
Warm comedy about an unlikely romance that develops between a cranky newspaperman (Preston) and a middle aged widow (Moore). Lovely chemistry between both stars, but it is the irreplacable Preston who charms his way into our hearts.
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7/10
Chatty, witty showcase for two fine actors...
moonspinner556 October 2015
Home Box Office was still finding its footing in 1985 in regards to its original programming, but the romantic comedy "Finnegan Begin Again" was a bright spot for the cable network, a snug cross between a movie-of-the-week and a less-sensational film meant for theatrical release. Robert Preston does wonders with an impossible creation, that of Michael Finnegan, who might best be described as a cynical optimist (his anonymously-written advice column is tart and brutally truthful, while he skips along the crime-ridden streets of Virginia with joie de vivre); Mary Tyler Moore is a teacher having an affair with a married man who crosses his path. Walter Lockwood's teleplay, an original, is filled with interesting conversations and amusing repartee that bring out the best in both Preston and Moore (this was the warmest and most approachable Mary had been in some time). One particular scene of slapstick nonsense threatens to mar the film, and Sam Waterston is all over the place as Moore's married lover, but the main focus is on the satin-and-sandpaper relationship between the two principals, and they make the film worthwhile.
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10/10
I wish Hollywood still made movies like this!
Theresa_E22 November 2005
Warning: Spoilers
This movie was released in 1985 direct to cable TV on HBO.

Romantic-Drama. It's really not a comedy. There are some humorous moments, just as in real life, but the overall tone of the movie is serious.

This movie does not have an MPAA rating. I would rate it as PG-13 because of mild violence, adult content and adult dialog.

Mike Finnegan (Robert Preston) is a newspaperman. When he turned 65 and was forced to retire, the Managing Editor kept him on to write the lonely-hearts column as "Felicity Hope." Mike is not a good fit for the job. His replies are filled with bitterness and morality, which is causing a drastic drop in the number of letters received. His attitude may be because of his own marital situation. His wife, Margaret (Silvia Sydney), is 75 years old and suffers from senile dementia. Despite his personal troubles, he's always a public symbol of cheer when he takes the bus to and from work every day. He greets everyone who boards with a smile and a compliment.

Liz DeHaan (Mary Tyler Moore) is a teacher in her mid-forties. She's widowed and having an affair with a married man, Paul Broadbent (Sam Waterston). Liz keeps up hope that Paul will eventually leave his wife, so she continues to meet him once a week in a run-down apartment on the bad side of town. She takes the bus to their rendezvous so their cars won't be seen together on the street.

On the bus is where Mike and Liz meet. Mike notices Liz is troubled and, because he is an observant newspaperman, deduces this is caused by her present relationship. When he tries to help her by explaining what he has determined by observing her, he actually scares her because he is 100% correct and she thinks that what he knows may cause trouble for her and Paul. Mike allays her fear by confiding some of his own history that relates to her present situation, which also explains why he hasn't left his wife and why he isn't such a good fit as the newspaper's advice columnist.

So now Liz and Mike are friends, although Mike is not quite sure what to make of it all. Liz likes him because what he tells her is what she tells herself. She easily denies the truth when it's herself talking, but she listens when Mike says it. She doesn't understand why; maybe it's because he's completely blunt about it. Whatever it is, she likes it.

A distressing situation occurs and their friendship deepens, but neither of them notices because of their other troubled relationships. Eventually the strength of their friendship is tested.

Watch this movie to see how it all turns out. You won't regret it.

This movie is an A+ across the board.

Story: A+ The character development is excellent, true-to-life and very believable. The dialog is also real and believable. There's nothing corny or glamorous here. No hidden messages. No sugar sweetening.

Acting: A+ How can it be anything but A+ from this cast?

Robert Preston was one of this country's most under-appreciated performers. He was much more than just The Music Man. Sure, when you see him strut down the street with the boom box guy, you might think Harold Hill, and that's okay. It put a smile on my face.☺ He always covers all of the emotions with perfection. With Mike, he gets the chance to cover everything; happy, sad, love, pain.

Mary Tyler Moore is just plain perfect, as usual. She takes Liz from being completely tangled up in her affair that she can't see how wrong it is, then is confused yet intrigued by this strange but honest and concerned man until finally she's able to break free from her troubles.

Sam Waterston surprised me. He's very comical here and I'd never seen him in this type of role. He fits it well and he's very believable and actually makes me like Paul even though Paul is a louse.

Another part of why the main cast works is that their real ages are close to their character's ages. They look the part; they act the part.

Direction: A+ Another great job from Joan Micklin Silver. Full of emotions, evenly flowed.

Visuals: A+ Again, very real and nothing fancy. You don't feel like you're watching this story through a camera.

Great quotes: "If only flesh and spirit could grow at the same pace." "I did your ironing."

Other movies like this: Murphy's Romance (1985) Starring: Sally Field, James Garner
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6/10
Sweet romantic drama
HotToastyRag21 October 2017
If you watch the first ten minutes of Finnegan Begin Again and reach for the remote to turn it off, you're not alone. I almost stopped watching the movie, too. Robert Preston is an extremely kooky character, and it seems like the film will be two hours of his oddities that are supposed to be cute, charming, or funny, but don't really cut the mustard. If you keep the film running, though, you'll watch a very slow-burning, sweet, romantic drama, with some very good acting from Robert Preston and Sylvia Sidney. And keep your eye out for a very young Giancarlo Esposito!

In his second-to-last movie, Robert Preston is married to Sylvia Sidney, writes a romantic advice column for a newspaper, and rides the bus every day because his car was stolen years ago. While on the bus, he meets Mary Tyler Moore, who's having an affair with Sam Waterston, who's married and has three children. Don't worry, it's not very confusing. The two leads strike up a friendship, and as Robert helps Mary sort out the problems in her life, she brings some much-needed joy into his. It's really a very sweet friendship, but as light as the film starts out, it contains some pretty heavy scenes that might require Kleenexes to get through.

All in all, there's a lot to be learned from Finnegan Begin Again. Big problems can happen to ordinary people, whether it be a mugging, job insecurity, health issues, or falling in love with the wrong person. If you like the type of movie that you can really take a bite out of, rent this flick.
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10/10
"There was a man named Michael Finnegan...Finnegan, begin again."
theowinthrop1 March 2007
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Robert Preston's last film was OUTRAGE! (1985) which followed this film. Although a central figure in that movie, his part was not as important as several others - I keep thinking his health may have been beginning to fail, so that his role as a murder case defendant was curtailed as a result. He still gave an intelligent performance but it seemed short in comparison to what it should have been.

For his last solid, good performance look at this film made slightly earlier in 1984-85. Preston plays the newspaper columnist Michael Finnigan, who has reached the age of 65 and is still working as the advice to the lovelorn columnist for David Huddleston's newspaper. He hates that job, but it's that or retirement. He is living in a large house with his ten year older wife Sylvia Sydney, who is suffering from dementia, and very demanding in her ways. There is little real love left - he loved some other woman, not the current Sydney. But he is loyal and protective.

Then he meets Mary Tyler Moore - a woman who is close in age to him, and a widow (although currently seeing Sam Waterson). With Moore Preston finds a soul mate again, someone to talk to, and someone he can understand (and who can understand him). But he will only go so far with her - he feels he is duty bound to care for his wife Sydney.

Preston raises the film's level of interest by his charm - nicely abetted by Moore's response to him (and even Sydney's response - she may be sadly demented, but she does show gratitude occasionally to him). Waterson is funny but sleazy, as he is two-timing his wife.

Although a type of "deus ex-ma-china" conclusion assists in resolving the plot, FINNEGAN BEGIN AGAIN remains an adult film of late romance, and a worthy conclusion to a great acting career.
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5/10
A cast of legends doesn't automatically make this perfect.
mark.waltz4 November 2021
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This HBO drama with elements of comedy has some great characterizations but you have to face it. Robert Preston's character of Michael Finnegan is certainly not someone that you will automatically like. In the first 20 minutes of the show, he is downright obnoxious with his ogling of women as they get on the bus, even if it does end up being innocent. People look at him as if he is nuts, and indeed, he is. But as you get to know him, you'll begin to see if some of the elements that made him that way, and that starts with his older, senile wife, played by the legendary Sylvia Sidney.

One of the women that he always tries to make conversation with who usually ignores him is the seriously unhappy Mary Tyler Moore, having an affair with the married Sam Waterson and desperate in her not knowing what to do. He's a romantic advice columnist at a local newspaper, and his advice to say the least is a bit abrupt. He stalks her to a laundromat, gets on her nerves by analyzing her a bit too much, but before long, they are sharing lunches at first outside then finally at her apartment. His ailing wife is made worse by a home break in, ending up in the hospital with little chance of survival, and this gives Preston the opportunity to spend more time with Moore even though she's still seeing Waterson on the side.

I had high hopes for this drama because everything seemed like it would work out realistically. The problem is that it doesn't as Moore doesn't have romantic chemistry with either of the men, and Preston's character is definitely someone that would make people turn and walk away from him. He's excellent, but then again that's the actor, not the character. Lots of sympathy for Sylvia Sidney, looking very pretty even though she's in her mid-seventies, and it's evident that she stuck in the past when you see her dancing around her overstuffed living room with the fan. Her character is heartbreaking to watch with the changes she goes through.

It's obvious that the reason why the house is so messy is because of her. Moore gets to lighten up after a bit so this is not a retread of her Beth Jarrett from "Ordinary People". A young Giancarlo Esposito is the shaky young tough guy who mugs Preston, a little bit of a stereotype that is uncomfortable as is the slapstick bit at the cemetery later on. It's the flawed script that's the issue. At least it's better than HBO's other big name TV movie "Best Friends" from several years before.
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10/10
Preston transparent and vital,-Sylvia Sydney, heartbreakingly real in this story of the end of a marriage and a life...and the beginning of a new one.
srochow23 May 2003
Robert Preston, "Lonelyhearts newswriter" discouraged, sour on life, caretaker to his wife of many decades; Sylvia Sydney, in a role of heartbreaking depth, his wife, slipped in dementia; Mary Tyler Moore, the woman who's had it all go wrong, together in a story of life at its ending and its beginnings. Superb.
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9/10
Don't miss it!
rhoughton18 October 2000
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One of those quiet, near perfect movies that sneak up on you and are just unresistable. Preston [I'm an unashamed fan,] and Tyler Moore, are just right together, and the movie isn't just funny, sad, poignant and good fun, it also has something to say about relationships and about life. If I had a criticism of the film, it would be the last scene. I didn't need to see them in bed. It would have been much better if this had just been implied.
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Preston does it again!
mrsclean2 January 2001
Can you say cute? Robert Preston is so perfect in this movie, as in all of his movies! LOVE THAT MAN!! This movie will have your attention from start to finish. I was not a Mary Tyler Moore fan until this movie. If you feel like renting a movie and you don't know what kind of film to watch...pick this one...it will wow ya!

~~~~~~SMOOCHES ROBERT~~~~~~
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10/10
Very real, Robert Preston is so good
ladwoods5 June 2014
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Saw this movie when I was 20 and really liked it. Now I'm 50 and I really love it.... It's very real. I admit Robert Preston (Michael) doesn't look like he did in the music man, but he certainly is just as charming. MTM (Elizabeth) is just beautiful and equally appealing. Lot of great chemistry between them. Sam Waterston is hysterically yucky. The movie has great lessons, "romance is cotton candy, real love is what you do for each other" (ironing)

I remember the first time I saw the movie being slightly turned off by the ending. Seeing "mature" folks in bed in bed was not something I expected, or was interested in seeing. Now I think it's an important part of the message. Elizabeth and Michael love each other, it may not be as pretty as Pitt and Jolie..... But who is? It's as real as the rest of the movie.

It makes me sad to think when Michael claims he only has 10 good years to offer Elizabeth, in reality Preston only had 2. He seemed so energetic and full of life . He is loved and missed by so many, but will continue to touch future generations.
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8/10
Revelations From the Grave
Snowgo30 July 2014
This film handled the subject of infidelity in a very human way: People who are with partners who are not right for the other, meet ones who are right for them, and engage in a relationship. It is interesting how the relationship was handled by the screenwriter, directer and producer: At first, Michael (Robert Preston) and Elizabeth (Mary Tyler Moore) are somewhat antagonistic toward each other, but each seem to thrive on the challenge and slight tension, rather than succumb to the bhoredom of things-as-they-are.

Preston's performance is classic: I especially enjoyed the scene where he forgot his laundry at the laundromat, because of the heated discussion he and Liz were having (he followed her in there). She later brought his laundry to him (at his place of work). I thought that was precious.

Waterson's performance was quite intense at times, as he bordered on obsessive, begging that Liz not leave him, and implying threats or crazy behavior if he does. The relationship between Michael and his wife is extremely real and is worth watching the movie for, just by itself. Often, there is a long convalescence before death, and it is not romantic. Michael did his best to do the right thing.

Although health-conscious Liz would have eventually been at odds with Michael's prolific drinking, these two had something to share, and did so. Excellent movie.
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8/10
This is a film that will have raised ones emotional IQ by the time it's over.
MyMovieTVRomance16 November 2021
Robert Preston is in so many movies I like with so many of my favorite leading ladies, that he's become one of my most favorite leading men! He's so great at playing a guy that we love to love, one that we root for!

And Mary! Mary, Mary, Mary...Dear, sweet Mary, as her TV co-stars would say- is at her sweetest here. I've never seen such tenderness from her, so much so, that it has made me see her in a whole new light. I have always been her fan, which is why I watched this movie in the first place, but here, she made me want a hug! She made me want her to hold me, she was so kind and understanding and tender, that I totally understood why the men in this film were so crazy for her- and it wasn't just cause she could turn the world on with her smile! This is one of her best roles!

This is one of those simple little films that is all about character development. It's a slow-burning love-triangle, romance movie, that's a little rough around the edges in some ways, but ultimately very good. This is a film that builds empathy, as it's easy to see oneself in the predicaments of the characters. This is a film that will have raised ones emotional IQ by the time it's over. It's a sweet film, filled with heavy themes, done with a light touch and a dash of humor.

My favorite lines in the movie:

MTM: "I love you for doing my ironing!" Robert P.: "Now say it again, for no reason at all." MTM: "I love you, for no reason at all!" *Both break into laughs*

And that about sums it up!

Recommended!
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10/10
This Hard-To-Find Movie is a classic!
anneez2-114 November 2017
This is a movie so relevant to baby-boomers --starting with a depiction of someone taking care of a relative (in this case, a wife) with dementia, and still trying to have a little bit of a life -- something many of us cope with on a daily basis. I first saw this movie on HBO when it came out in 1985, curious because the NPR had completely trashed it, completely mischaracterizing the relationship between Robert Preston and his wife, the sad, lost Sylvia Sidney. Sam Waterston isterrific as the lily-livered man who cheats on his wife with Mary Tyler Moore, and the friendship between Moore and Preston is grown-up and just lovely. This movie is impossible to find except on VHS, which is really a shame.
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10/10
Great life lessons for everyone...and funny!
patriots12099329 August 2014
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Anyone who has been married or been in a relationship, whether good or bad, will find something they can relate to in this movie. It is a story about what it means to truly love and be loved.

Micheal Finnegan cares for his mentally incompetent wife for 20 years though he could have put her in an Alzheimer's unit somewhere and probably lived a very nice life. Elizabeth Dehaan realizes that her dead end relationship with a married man is not real love, just "cotton candy".

Elizabeth and Michael have a great friendship where they do things for each other. " real love is what you do for each other". When they find love, the 20 year age difference seems to be more of an issue for Michael ( he is thinking of her), but her response of "would you trade 10 good years for 40 indifferent ones?" Rings true. Some other memorable lines are " if only flesh and spirit could grow at the same pace", and " why do you expect to find the secrets of life in somebody else?"

The ending is a little convenient with the death of Michael's wife... And one has to wonder what would have happened with the couple if she survived and came back home to live.

It's an uplifting movie with very funny scenes, beautifully acted by Mary Tyler Moore and Robert Preston. Preston is especially good, and who couldn't fall for Mary, beautiful and witty. Sam Waterston and Silvia Sidney also do a great job. I think most people will find the emotions real, and the ones in a May/ September relationship or considering starting one, will really appreciate it. I bet there are more of those out there than most people realize.
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10/10
Robert Preston and Mary Tyler Moore Just keep getting better
Bernie444422 November 2023
This really is not a comedy however there are some very amusing scenes. However, I like the ratiocination scenes best. And when at the funeral, Paul Broadbent (Sam Waterston) suggests that Mike Finnegan (Robert Preston) moves out of Liz DeHaan's (Mary Tyler Moore) place; he gets pushed in the grave. This is about people, affairs, and aging. And many other people issues.

In the process of this movie, you can see how much better the actors have improved over the years and play fuller characters than in most of their previous movies. This is one of those movies that you watch over again, first to get the parts we glanced over while thinking about the movie action and dialog and missed. Then watch again just for the feel. Then watch again as we are now hooked.
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