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5/10
This is a low-budget Italian movie concerning a young Indian exacts a strong vendetta
ma-cortes21 June 2020
A Western-style film set in Arizona , although a bit more contemporary than the old west . It blatantly rips-off the frankly superior Sylvester Stallone vehicle "First Blood¨ by Ted Kotcheff , and that's why it isn't much concerned with the rules of plot realism . The young Indian from Thunder I , Deputy Luis 'Thunder' Martinez (Mark Gregory) is transferred to a small town in the desert. Luis nicknamed Thunder is a young and very tall Indian , he is a peaceful deputy whose quiet character is trigged by cutthroats , wrongful arrests , and injustices against his race . Deputy Thunder is welcomed by Sheriff chief Roger (Bo Svenson) but he learns that the corrupt deputy Rusty Weissner (Raimund Harmstorf) is paid by the drug mob. To protect himself , the deputy sets a trap for Thunder at the locker and gets him convicted as drug dealer . He is condemned to spend a long time at a brutal prison camp . The Indian Thunder has vowed to live in peace and order , but forswears his oath . Thunder fueled on the revenge arranges to escape of the cruel jail . Later on , he takes a bloody revenge . As a tough Native American is provoked to violence and then seeking a relentless vengeance . However he cannot sufficiently protect his pregnant spouse (Reel). Thunder/Mark Gregory breaks out throughout mountains and leads his pursuers to all manner of lethal ends . Finally , an army of cops led by Bo Svenson , Raymond Harmstorf and other deputies are summoned to crush him . He is on the warpaths and he is gonna blow your town apart . They gave him hate , he gave them hell .

Moving film with silly and non-sense in the extreme script , with lack of originality , campy dialogue , a lot of plentiful action scenes , including wild car chases , pursuits , thrills and violence . Being lousily played by Mark Gregory as a native Indian who turns into one army man , spending several minutes destroying property , shooting by means a crossbow to police officers and other contenders . The picture deals with usual theme in Italian cinema of the 60s and 70s : a merciless vendetta . As revenge is the top priority , as the protagonist tormenting and reckoning the bad guys . Really violent at times , this one results to be a rip-off to First Blood by Ted Kotcheff with Stallone that was followed by Rambo and sequels , here Thunder shoots explosive arrows similar to Rambo II . Wooden acting by Mark Gregory as a two-fisted native American submitted to mistreats and prejudices , and he eventually seeks vengance driving a police car against the nasties that are the highlights of the movie . He is accompanied by a motley team of secondaries as the American Bo Svenson who worked a lot in the Italian cinema and the German Raymond Harmstorf.

Atmospheric and expansive cinematography by Sergio D'Offizi , set in New Mexico's gorgeous Monument Valley , and Mesa Verde . The motion picture was regularlywritten/ directed by Fabrizio de Angelis, expertly maintaining a nimble narration throughout , staging with rip-roaring brio some scenes , and pacing in fits and starts , despite the short budget . While Thunder had success in Italy , getting a boxoffice hit , being followed by Thunder II that had limited boxoffice and third sequel also directed by Fabrizio de Angelis .The trilogy is formed by : ¨Thunder I¨ in which our starring Mark Gregory stars as an Indian who returned from Vietnam and gets disgruntled when absurdly racist locals harass him multiple times , as he confronts local authorities who harass his fellow tribe members , as his girlfriend is kidnapped and relatives are terrorized , he then seeks vengeance . Followed by this ¨Thunder warrior II¨ 1985 with Mark Gregory , Bo Svenson and ¨Thunder warrior III¨ 1988 with Mark Gregory , Ingrid Lawrence, John Philip Law , and Werner Pochath .
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4/10
Deputy Rusty for President!
Coventry14 January 2019
The opening credits of "Thunder II" are extremely reminiscent to those of the original "Thunder". In fact, I even paused and double-checked if I was watching the correct film, because the VHS-boxes accidentally could have gotten mixed up in my movie closet. Turns out that titular Navajo-hero Thunder is transported through the desert in the back of an old pick-up truck in part one, whereas he drives his own jeep in part two. Small detail, but it had me fooled for a minute! Anyways, "Thunder II" is a passable and sorely disappointing sequel, mainly because co-writer/director Fabrizio De Angelis incomprehensibly opted for a feeble PG-13 rating. Basically, this certificate means there are numerous of supposedly spectacular car chases and crashes, the latter always shot in dreadful slow-motion, but almost no casualties. Thunder returns to the same little Arizonan desert town that he wrecked in the original film, only now he's a law enforcer. You'd think they station him elsewhere, but no, of all the little redneck towns in Arizona they send him back to Yavapai County. Rusty Weissner, the same deputy who previously made Thunder's life a living hell, is still calling the shots in town and he possibly even became more corrupt, relentless and psychotic. With Sheriff Roger (wasn't he called Bill, by the way?) struggling with domestic problems, Rusty now doesn't even bother anymore to cover up his drug-trafficking and murdering of innocent Native Americans. Rusty is truly awesome and ought to run for President! He rams people's heads through the windshield, threatens helicopter pilots at gunpoint and frames his new colleague Thunder so that he gets send to a primitive and racist state prison. When our Indian hero can finally avenge himself, all he does is hang from a helicopter rope. I had good confidence that "Thunder II" would become an excessively violent and trashy exploitation knock-off, particularly because Dardano Sacchetti is also listed as a writer, but the sad truth is that it balances somewhere between a "Cannonball Run" and a "Police Academy" sequel. The car stunts are memorable, but mainly because nobody even bothered to make them look authentic. Instead of the characters, you can plainly see the stunt drivers with their helmets.
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6/10
Got to love Mark Gregory!
tarbosh2200019 February 2014
Warning: Spoilers
Yavapai County, Arizona, is a dusty ol' hamlet inhabited by a lot of Native Americans. A Police Deputy named Rusty (Harmstorf) is an angry, corrupt racist who is working with drug-dealing biker gangs when he's not verbally abusing the local Indian population. So he really doesn't approve when Thunder (Gregory), a big, muscular, and incorruptible local Indian joins the police force. Now caught between Thunder and Sheriff Roger (Svenson), Rusty plants some drugs in Thunder's locker at the police station. Thunder then undergoes some brutal hardships at the local prison, biding his time until he can get out and take revenge on those who wronged him. Rusty and his cronies better prepare for the oncoming THUNDER STORM! In the grand tradition of "persecuted Indians on the run but with some revenge" movies such as Johnny Firecloud (1975) and Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here (1969) comes Thunder Warrior 2 - or, to make things a bit more simple, just take First Blood (1982) and make Rambo an Indian. The fact that there are THREE Thunder Warrior movies is a testament to the video store era, when stores clamored for product to fill its shelves, and Italian companies (and so many others) were more than happy to oblige. Shot in the American west by a team of Italians, led by Fabrizio DeAngelis (under his normal pseudonym Larry Ludman), It has that certain Italian feel we all know and love. Maybe it's the dubbing, maybe it's hiring Mark Gregory - Trash himself - as an American Indian, or maybe some other indefinable quality, but a work like Thunder Warrior 2 could only have come from those mad Italian geniuses.

They get very impressive scenery on film, maybe it's the outsider's view of America. We can't be sure it's an in-joke, but at one point a character says to Thunder, "This ain't no place for trash like you!" - could that be a reference video junkies at the time (and today) are meant to recognize? Also in the noteworthy dialogue department, Rusty is blatantly called "The most corrupt in Arizona"! Well at least he isn't trying to hide it. Raimund Harmstorf, who plays Rusty, was an actor the Italians used often when they needed a blonde, blue-eyed guy for a change. He was a shoe-in to play the evil racist. Maybe it's his name, "Rusty", but in this movie at least, he has a certain Chuck Norris-esque quality.

Thunder Warrior 2 has a good amount of action scenes, and most of them, including the stunts and car chases/crashes, are in slow motion. This predating Hard Target (1993) by many years. Plus who can forget the heart-stopping "Thunder on a rope" sequence? And like how many people, when they're about to get revenge, put on a special "revenge outfit" (the best example being Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs in Quietfire), Thunder goes full-on Indian regalia before he breaks out the bow and arrow with missile-tipped arrows! Granted, they look a lot like lipstick tubes, but so what? Plus, other characters just casually call this hulking brute "Thunder", as in, "hey Thunder, what's going' on?" - his name is THUNDER, okay? THUNDER. Show the proper amount of awe.

Released by TransWorld in one of their standard big-boxes (you gotta love the original retail price of $79.95 printed on the sleeve), Thunder Warrior 2 was the middle half of a Thunder sandwich (also a great name for this movie) and we think you pretty much know what to expect.
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Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJSexualyFrustraitedMatt23 October 2002
this movie rocks. its got so much bad its good. you have to truly like a good bad movie to enjoy this, so take warring, but im my opinon fantastic!!!!! From the awful overdubs to awful acting to gut renching editing and a plot that makes no sense. did i mention a awful soundtrack, constantly reused footage, and the fact that you can see the stunt drivers IN THE CARS!!??!! amazing is all i can say. the surprise ending is also genius! 10+
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4/10
Its A Paycheck
damianphelps28 March 2022
A much needed sequel...bawahahaha

Another movie from the king of trash, surprisingly not as good as the first movie.

Its C grade amusement but you know what you are going to get :)
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7/10
Somehow, they made Thunder better!
BandSAboutMovies11 September 2018
Warning: Spoilers
In the first forty minutes of Thunder 2, the movie recaps the first film, is a rookie cop drama, tells us about corrupt cops and then becomes an Italian exploitation version of Cool Hand Luke. If you're not in, you'll never be in. This is why I watch movies.

Remember the last time we saw Luis Martinez - Thunder to you and me? He was blowing up an entire town and beating up cops. Well, now he is a cop! How did this happen? How could this not happen?

Even crazier - he gets assigned to the town that he already destroyed and has to work with the same cops who ruined his life. That said, Thunder proves to be a pretty good cop, even winning the trust of his old archnemesis, Sheriff Roger (Bo Svenson). He even busts a transgender person who nearly knocks him out!

Of course, the cops are still corrupt. Deputy Rusty Weissner still has it out for Thunder and sets him up, making it look like he's a drug dealer. Thunder has to go to prison and try to survive the box. If only he didn't have the worst drunken attorney ever!

Thunder breaks out, taking a cop car with him. He tries to get a fair trial, but Rusty attacks him and flips over the jeep carrying Thunder, his pregnant wife and the drunken lout. Thunder's wife loses the baby and he goes on the run again. When he meets her at the hospital, she tells him to get revenge.

Oh he does. There's an army on Native Americans, exploding crossbow weaponry, tomahwaks and Mark Gregory stiffly walking around wearing warpaint. Holy Rambo, this movie! It's everything fabulous about Italian exploitation without zombies or sex crazed killers.

Fabrizio De Angelis returned to direct the sequel and he brought along the most prolific writer in Italian sleze with him, Dardano Sacchetti. Magic ensued.

In the end, the sheriff just lets Thunder go as he's innocent. He tells him not to ever come back and his drunk lawyer laughs and take a shot. In front of a cop. They pull away and the sheriff takes out a rifle, watches them in the scope and shoots. The end.

Were they trying to make a Billy Jack ending?

Take my word for it. This movie is perfect. I mean, Mark Gregory hanging off a helicopter? Slouch walking around dressed as a cop? Native Americans having their own special doctors? This movie says it all.
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Hilarious junk
frankfob25 September 2005
This is a low-budget ripoff of "Rambo", and although the original "Rambo" was no great shakes, it's "Citizen Kane" compared to this stinker. Mark Gregory is such a terrible actor you feel embarrassed for him, but no one else is much better. Bo Svenson is the only American in the cast--even though it was shot in New Mexico--but at least they didn't dub his voice, like they did everyone else's (and, as is usual with these dubbed Italian movies, the dubbing is atrocious), so the best thing you can say about his performance is that you can recognize his voice. The action scenes aren't handled particularly well--a fight in a desert diner at the beginning of the picture is laughable and a bank robbery and chase scene toward the middle is so poorly coordinated it makes you wonder if anyone actually directed it, or if they just told the drivers, "OK, drive around town and bump into each other." There are plot holes you could build an eight-lane highway through and characters do things that make you shake your head in disbelief. For example, when Thunder is being chased and shot at in the desert by a helicopter, does he try to get to a place--behind boulders, among rocks, etc.--where the chopper can't see him or get to him? No, of course not--he stands out in the open, grabs a rope and tries to lasso it! What did he think he was going to do, pull it out of the sky? Anyway, the whole movie is filled with stupidities like this.

So, to recap, there's bad news and good news. The bad news is that "Thunder Warrior II" is a tenth-rate copy of a movie that wasn't particularly good to begin with, the script is laugh-inducing, the "acting" wouldn't pass muster in a porn film, the "action" scenes are shoddy and poorly done, the dubbing is not only terrible but annoying, and its "hero" is about as stiff, bland and colorless as they come. The good news is that, because a friend gave it to me, I didn't pay anything to see it. And that's pretty much the ONLY good thing about this picture.
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Uneventful sequel
lor_21 April 2023
My review was written in June 1987 after watching the movie on TWE video cassette.

Thunder is back and Bo Svenson's got him in "Thunder Warrior 2", a photogenic if uneventful sequel to the Italian made-in-U. S. A. Action pic of several years back.

Indian hero Thunder (Italian thesp Mark Gregory) returns home in the sequel, appointed by the governor as a deputy sheriff to Sheriff Roger (Bo Svenson), who had him sent to prison in part one. His adversary once again is the corrupt deputy (Raimund Harmstorf), running a profitable drug trade. An Indian chief is murdered by the frug ring and Thunder is out to get to the bottom of this when Harmstorf frames him for muder and it's back to Arizona's state pen.

Thunder escapes on cue and there's plenty of chases and helicopter stunts in Monument Valley until the hero puts on his war paint to go after Harmstorf. Finale is disappointing and confusing with Svenson sending the hero (with wife Karen Reel) away and cryptically taking aim at their car with his rifle in the final shot. Never fear, a third installment is in the works.

Monument Valley is a lovely backdrop for this nonsense, rendered a bit hard to take by the pidgin English dialog. Filmmaker Fabrizio De Angelis evidently gets away with minimal efforts like these, but even a lowkey hero like Thunder will need more interesting challenges to keep an audience coming back for more.
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