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3/10
cold Love in Paris
RavenGlamDVDCollector14 September 2014
Ice-cold movie that fails to engage the viewer, despite having loads of glamor, which is what RavenGlamDVDCollector is all about, so if I'm not happy about it, something is seriously wrong. To the reviewer who said that Angie Everhart would have been great had it been a silent movie, hell, you summed it up most eloquently! She looks like a thoroughbred racehorse, but fails to emote any real feeling. True, she is a classy- looking leading lady, but comes across as not even lukewarm. Makes me wary of pursuing her other titles.

At the beginning of the movie there is this scene with a fantastically beautiful girl, only credited as 'beautiful blonde' (Philippa Mathews). However, John Gray isn't satisfied by her, and his attention wanders, he is distracted by a neighing cart-horse that seems to have suffered a stroke outside in the street. The police arrive and they administer a lethal injection to put the poor animal out of its misery. This is a metaphor for this entire movie.

Mickey Rourke isn't as bad as one of the reviewers made him out to be. Twelve years later, of course he'd be far less good-looking. Couldn't care much for the character of John Gray though. Movie cried out for Kim Basinger, who was riding the crest of the wave of L.A. CONFIDENTIAL at the time and couldn't be bothered, lucky for her. Or perhaps Adrian Lynne might have been there had Kim been there? Anyway, a decent spark of real interest might have kickstarted this flimsy plot.

Jeesh, those hateful paintings! So Liz is supposed to have painted that dreck? With Vittorio as the model? Yuck! They're worth a few hundred dollars, and that's for the frames. Jeremiah the Bullfrog on a bad day is a much more pleasing sight. Listen, they obviously obtained the rights to plow with other people's horses, but they sure lead them astray. So Kim wasn't available, so Liz is dead?

Stylish people are, I suppose, quite often merely coldly efficient. There is only a reptile heart there, I suppose. Which is what is wrong here. The fashion show fails to be really exciting, it's all so damned cold, it looks good, but really lacks warmth. Glamor with very little sex appeal, or perhaps, sex appeal with no real sexiness? Nothing playful. These observations have been very educational to me. I have pinpointed a coldness in too-fluently-executed perfection. RavenGLAM has learned of a flaw in beauty. Perhaps over- confidence caused this coldness? Perhaps super-cold people hide behind visual excellence? Hell, HELP! This movie is ruining RavenGLAM!

Best thing of the movie: End credit (!!! No I didn't mean it that way!!!) featuring Julienne Taylor. Why Did You Do It? Hauntingly beautiful. Words doesn't really fit in with the theme of the movie, so it is simply played at the end. But wondrously good, a joy to hear.

Very poor sequel. Unsatisfactory. My rating of three is simply influenced by positively rewarding several glamorous scenes, the beauty, the composition, the photography. I cannot allow myself to give it just a one, which it truly doesn't even deserve. For what has been lost here, is big.

In its defense, it hardly belongs on the Top 100 Worst Movies. There are thousands of titles out there that fit that bill. But if you bestow this accolade as a warning to future fools who dare to tread where angels backed off, then I quite understand, and just nod sagely.
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4/10
If I were to describe this film in one word it would be "meh".
a-twetman8 November 2011
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I didn't realize that this was a sequel until minutes before seeing it. I just found it on the bottom 100 list and decided to see it because of that, so my judgment is based solely on it's own merits, without influence from the previous film.

I must say that I don't think it deserves a place in the bottom 100, I actually liked the extremely dark, almost suicidal tone in the beginning but about 35 minutes in, the whole movie shifts direction completely, becoming some kind of "Eyes wide shut" parody. I found myself asking "why is this happening?" over and over again throughout the second act of the film but at least something was going on. The last part of the film was just dreary, a drawn out sequence of nothing with dialog long winded leading nowhere, I was so close to just skipping to the end. Love in Paris (or Another 9 and a half weeks) could have been good but ended up being totally and utterly meh.
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2/10
A film for people who like the plots in porno films but don't necessarily want all that nudity!
planktonrules10 February 2012
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"Another 9 1/2 Weeks" has been on and off IMDb's Bottom 100 list for the last few years. It's on and off because it's near the bottom of the list and occasionally other films knock it off...though eventually it seems to find its way back. Currently it's #99--and it being on the list is why I decided to watch this film. Although I have reviewed tons of art and foreign films, occasionally I like to see a really, really bad movie--one that is so bad that it gives me a good laugh. Well, I must say that "Another 9 1/2 Weeks" is terrible...but I didn't recall laughing even once. It just wasn't an enjoyable experience on any level.

I am sure that many tried watching this film to see copious nudity. After all, that's what made the first one famous. However, despite Angie Everhart being a very, very beautiful woman, you never really see that much of her and so often parts of her are strategically hidden. So what you are left with is like a mild R or even PG-13 rated porn film--with a plot that seems about the quality of a porno. And, I am pretty sure MOST people don't watch explicit films because of the great acting or complex plots!!

The film picks up a few years after the first one. Mickey Rourke arrives in Paris and is trying to follow the trail of his old fling, Elizabeth. However, Kim Bassinger (Elizabeth in the first film) wouldn't appear in this film, so you know he won't get his lady love. In the meantime, he meets one of her bizarro friends (Everhart) and she spends most of the film jerking Mickey around (and not in a good way). As for Mickey, he spends all his time brooding and grunting. And, ultimately, you learn that Elizabeth was dead and this other woman knew this all along. Does it sound romantic? Does it sound sexy? The plot is too thin for most porn films. It rarely makes sense and is never interesting. Rourke mostly grunts and Elizabeth behaves like a women who is off her meds. But the worst part about it is that it really isn't sexy. I really have no idea what they were thinking when they made this one...but it's pretty limp (double entendre intended) and not worth your time--even if you are a bad film buff.
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dark dirge of a movie - and that's the good part
videomaniac16 December 2004
The original 9 1/2 weeks was a fun and sexy film that was full of life. Another 9 1/2 Weeks is almost the exact opposite of the first film and that's why so many fans of the first film were so unhappy with this one. This ain't 9 1/2 Weeks. In this one the character of John is so devastated by the loss of Elizabeth (his lover from the first film) that in the opening moments he places a gun to his head. It doesn't get any happier from there. A few scenes later he looks out his window and sees a once beautiful horse being turned into a dead one. That pretty much describes the state of John and of this sequel. It's a dark dirge of a movie with none of the joy of the first film and that's the whole point. We see John with sexual partners, including a prostitute he tries to pretend is Elizabeth, but there's zero chemistry even with the film's lead actress Angie Everhart. Elizabeth departure has left a void in John's soul and few know the dark places of a man's soul like Mickey Rourke. Just take a look at his performance in Angel Heart if you have any doubts. This time Rourke's face has become so battered from boxing that his appearance fits his character's emotional devastation perfectly and this is underscored by the film's black and blue cinematography. Rourke's John truly seems to be a man who has lost everything as he wanders from the art galleries to the dark alleys of Paris like a ghost searching for some glimpse of redemption. It's not a pretty picture and it's not supposed to be. This is film about pain, loss, and regret. It's a joyless purgatory of a film which works best as a canvas for Rourke's haunting performance as the devastated John. This is not 9 1/2 Weeks. This sequel is bleak, dark, and tragic. That's what I like about it.
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5/10
wouldn't be that bad if it weren't so damn dark!
Scoopy6 March 1999
Let me start with the good points: the movie is on a high quality print, the art direction is lovely, the sets are sumptuous, the exteriors are shot in Paris and the French countryside (how bad can you screw that up)

And that's about it. The entire movie is shot in a corny blue lighting scheme, and most of the sets are also blue. Given the presence of such a beautiful woman, Miss Everhart, and given that she did some rare-for-her topless scenes, some clearer lighting might have been sexier.

Talk about a lack of Chemistry between leads. These two never seem to like each other at any time.

Rourke looks better suited to do a sequel to Angel Heart than 9 1/2 Weeks. He's aging ... gracelessly. He looks like a ventriloquist's dummy that recently had his hair refitted. Despite his physical appearance, Rourke gives it his best shot, and he's pretty effective as a man locked inside himself, tortured by past mistakes and chances never taken. This could have been very effective opposite Kate Blanchett or Emma Thompson or Gwyneth, but just seems to echo unnoticed off Everhart.

Miss Everhart is a presence. Unfortunately, sound developed before color, and there were never any silent color movies, which would have been perfect for her.

She has a magnificent physical aura, at 5'11", with the mane of hair, the supermodel looks, and the ability to fill out a sweater with extraordinary curves. But the girl went to the Royal Kathy Ireland Academy of Dramatic Arts. In terms of depth, she makes Pam Anderson seem like Soren Kirkegaard. She delivers every line with the chirpy intonations of a high school cheerleader. Surely there is more to her than this? What possessed someone to cast her in this role as a successful and powerful career woman?

Well, what else is there to say about a pseudo-arty piece of erotica that isn't erotic? Missing the right leads, and missing any chemistry between them ... what else could redeem the movie? Plot? You want plot? Maybe you should try to re-watch Sleuth instead of renting this movie.
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5/10
More tits than last time
a-leubecker10 August 2013
I actually had the dubious experience of watching these movies in reverse, I saw Another before I saw 9 and honestly the difference is surprisingly glaring. Mickey Rouke takes center stage in this one. No longer the supporting character, he has become the focus. A man tortured by guilt is not a new plot point but it's a refreshing development for a character who was otherwise two dimensional. Thusly, it's a welcomed change. Angie Everhart has an energy about her that's intoxicating. She isn't just willing to pose nude, She owns her nudity. She is the playful one trying to lure Rourkes character out of his shell. Her motives remain questionable along with the fate of Elizabeth (the chick from the first movie). And the culmination of her motives is simplistic without feeling dumbed down. The other two predominant characters, Angie's assistant and business partner, are both likable and they are suppose to be. And all four turn in performances that make them memorable.

So how does it compare to the original? Another is soft-core porn. It's a story about moving on from guilt or risking repeating your same mistakes. The mystery surrounding Angie's character draws you in as Rouke tries to unravel the mystery. And loads of gratuitous frontal nudity tucked in around the plot keep our attention.

9 on the other hand is just a boring trudge through an unhealthy relationship where two people unrealistically expect something out of the other. Until finally it ends. Also no titties at all.

So in the end. You can watch Another without seeing 9 and not miss a thing. It's soft-core, but with talented and under appreciated actors delivering compelling performances, this is worth checking out at least once. Plus naked Angie Everhart. 'Nuff Said
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1/10
Tacky, tasteless, and a total waste of time
saprater23 February 2003
There aren't enough words to describe what a disappointment this movie was. As a staunch fan of 9 1/2 Weeks, I was dubious about a sequel, but even my low expectations couldn't match the reality of "Love in Paris".

Nothing about the movie was reminiscent of the orignal. The role of John Gray seemed more pathetic than anything else. In addition to his "impotent" personality, was the fact that Mickey Rourke had gotten so out of shape that he was never allowed to take his shirt off. (Thank God)

Angie Everhart was true to form with her poor acting skills, and the plot was so weak that several scenes were obvious and badly revamped copies from the first movie.

The sad part is that they couldn't even get the scarf right. How hard is it to find/make a scarf to look like the original? This goes to show that Love in Paris is NOT a sequel. It is a movie that must stand on its own, lest it tarnish the memory of that first and great movie that it is loosely based upon. Trust me, if you experienced any type of titillation/attraction for the first movie/original characters...you do not want to see Love in Paris. Not only will you be disappointed in it, but the images of a paunchy and washed-up Mickey Rourke will erase any pleasant memories of you have of charismatic John Gray.
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1/10
A short summary of the worst movie I have seen.
ergates3 January 1999
"Love in Paris" was boring, tedious, full of corny dialogue, not sexy at all, unimaginative, predictable and a complete waste of time and money.
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1/10
Well, well, well, I don't think I can deal with another 9 1/2 weeks of this!
Smells_Like_Cheese10 June 2007
9 1/2 Weeks is one of the sexiest films you will ever see, if you haven't seen it, go rent it now! I have to admit that I love that film, it's such a guilty pleasure. But when I found the sequel to it, called Another 9 1/2 Weeks, I grabbed the movie without hesitation. I went home and watched it immediately, and I have to say I can see why Kim didn't want to be in this film. And Mickey, Mickey, Mickey, he's not so fine any more, he's more just very creepy and scary looking. The story didn't work and was just plain unnecessary, at least I didn't buy it. I mean, 10 years and John still hasn't moved on? May I just recommend therapy? Though he and Lea had pretty good chemistry, it wasn't as sizzling as what John and Elizabeth had.

John is in Paris, he is about to come to an art show where Elizabeth's paintings are about to go on auction, John buys all the paintings hoping he'll bump into her. But alas, she isn't there, but he notices a beautiful young woman wearing the shawl he gave Elizbeth, he asks her where she got it and she says Elizabeth gave it to her and they were best friends. The young woman, Lea, is fascinated with the infamous John that rocked her friend's world, but John is just more concerned with speaking to Elizabeth, but when he gets terrible news, he may just have to settle for the sexy best friend.

Some scenes were just too disturbing and unrealistic to how a person would react. John became too whiny and such a pansy boy. The passion wasn't very strong and the story was just horrible. I really recommend that you stay away from this movie, but please see the first 9 1/2 Weeks, it's a great thriller, don't watch this one, it's just plain insulting.

1/10
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1/10
Absolutely the worst movie I have ever seen.
Oshun26 February 1999
Idiotic plot, overdramatic "noir" events that do not shock, no chemistry between the leads, a really annoying female lead, wooden acting, from everyone, boring "sex", and poor Mr. Rourke cast in a romantic lead when he no longer looks the part. Just see the original again - it is much better, such as it is.
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1/10
Avoid at all costs!
ShempMyMcMalley20 June 2008
This is for any viewer that may go against their better judgment and watch this, 1: because the first one is pretty decent for what it is, or 2: 'cause Angie Everhart is uniquely attractive. (Quick capsule side-track - less than 3% of the world's XX-chromosomed inhabitants have naturally occurring blonde hair and redheads via genetic fusion will be gone by the year 2100, say some geneticists). I am a member of the latter category (and the first one too, actually). Heed my warning, even if the hottest woman in the world was in this movie, it has no redeeming value whatsoever. It is an incoherent mess of seemingly random scenes shot, and then edited blindly together in an attempt to make a story of it, I don't think an actual script exists. Children could make a better film than this.

Do yourself a favor and tour the stop signs or traffic lights on foot in your local area rather than watching this abysmal turd of a movie.
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10/10
saddest love story ever
lotsafun18 August 2005
I rented this one thinking it might be an entertaining bit of tawdry trash with some cheap thrills. It is. It is also one of the saddest love stories ever. I can't say I "enjoyed" Another 9 1/2 Weeks, but I can say that I love the movie's romantic streak. It's a terribly sad romantic streak, but a great romantic streak nonetheless. Another 9 1/2 weeks is also cheesy and trashy. It's cheesier and trashier bits actually work to the movie's advantage by adding much needed levity to a very tragic story. Some have said the filmmakers should have had Mickey Rouke's character move on after losing his great love, but that would have diminished the power of their connection. He can't just move on. She's gone and he can't change that. There's no way out from his torturous pain. Mickey Rourke makes you believe it. The filmmakers were smart in building their entire film around him. He truly seems like he's been through Hell. His character begins the film in tremendous pain and ends the film in tremendous pain. There's no happy ending (although I like to imagine he changed his name to Marv and moved to Sin City). Another 9 1/2 Weeks isn't an easy movie to enjoy. Very few love it, but I do. I rented it, watched it, and then I bought it.
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7/10
Love and Paris not bad
poohpooh23 March 2002
Surprise! I actually liked love in Paris. I think it was much darker than the first one, but I respect the writers ideas and can see where they were going with it. What alot of people don't know is Mickey was disfigured from boxing when the movie was made. And he still hasn't fully recovered yet. It took guts to go on filming in such a superficial business. But he always shows his fearlessness, and that makes him a great actor. And Everhart wasn't bad. She's a good actress and can only grow as long as she continues to believe in herself. The scenes between John and Lea said just what they needed to say. Use your imagination and feel John and Lea's pain! This darkly romantic film made sense as it showcased John's inability to love again. Sorry, but there is someone who did enjoy this film.
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3/10
Bo-o-o-o-ring
smatysia19 March 1999
This film truly bored me. Roarke looks terrible, Angie Everhart's character went nowhere. The storyline is incomprehensible.
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Not as terrible as most have made it out to be.
htbt4 January 2007
First off I LOVED the original 9 1/2 weeks, let me remind you that this film was previously close to 3 hours long and very faithful to the book (at least that is what I have read) apparently test audiences felt it was too disturbing so the director, Adrien Lyne was forced to cut A lot of parts. this is why the film looks disjointed - if you haven't noticed, the editing was pretty bad. I even read the Mickey Rourke had wanted Lyne to stick to his guns and let the film stay faithful to the book.

if you haven't read the book yet.. PICK IT up - its by far the best erotic novel I've ever read, its short and to the point.. apparently it is based on a true story - so it intrigues me even more.

back to my review on this sequel, lets face it folks most sequels are always bad.. its hard to make a great sequel period. when I first heard that there is a sequel to this film I was in shock - I felt that they should leave the story alone. but many of us who have watched the original have often wondered what became of the two protagonist... this sequel takes us there.

the biggest turn off was Angie Everhart's acting... yes she is gorgeous (not as gorgeous as Kim Basinger in my opinion) but looks only go so far - she was merely eye candy, watching her scenes was painful.

Mickey was great as the tortured John. I agree with another reviewer that the filmmakers made a wise choice to start the sequel where the original left off. I'm sure others would have liked john to move on - but that sometimes isn't reality. In theory the story was good, it just wasn't executed that well.

I really felt deeply sad for him and the fact that he could not be with the one woman he loved - even when confronted with gorgeous women - its just not the same chemistry as he had with liz. I like the fact that elizabeth liked the games John played without having to tell him directly - she was almost like a child - which John liked. whereas lea wanted john to play with her sooo bad - it seemed pathetic.

anywho.. the acting on everhearts part made the film bad for me... overall the film wasn't that bad. I think most audiences are use to the typical films which Hollywood feeds us with, this one was different. It was extremely sad and painful - a love story so intense and so amazing, one in which its main protagonist has to move on with his life knowing that he will never be with the love of his life ever again.
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2/10
Pitiful softcore nonsense
Leofwine_draca5 August 2013
I'll admit, I still haven't seen the first 9 1/2 WEEKS all the way through; it says something when this B-movie sequel is shown on TV more often than the first film! Still, it was a popular movie of the 1980s, and I'm sure a lot better than this absolutely pitiful attempt to ride the then-popular wave of softcore movies clogging up cable TV in America in the mid to late 1990s.

Where to begin? Nothing goes right with this film, and it ends up as an amalgamation of terribleness. The script is horrible, the story overlong and nonsensical. This is a mood piece, so there's a lot of standing around, a lot of talking about nothing, a lot of leaning on walls. Director Anne Goursaud has a few similar movies in her filmography but this has to be her worst.

Mickey Rourke returns from the original movie and his presence is an embarrassment. He looks weird, his face altered by plastic surgery, so they try to hide him in the shadows for a lot of the time. It doesn't hide the obvious. Angie Everhart gives a C-level performance, nothing more, and isn't memorable at all. The film tries so hard to be erotic, but there are no sensual scenes and the attempts at them are excruciatingly embarrassing. In all honesty, I don't know what they were trying to do here except recapture the spirit of the original movie in some way, but it doesn't work.
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1/10
Don't watch this movie!
liorelin16 August 2003
This is a very bad, worse and the worst film! I don't like sequels almost and that is the worst of all. When the film was going on I wanted to stop it each minute. Don't watch this movie if you don't want to feel bad. So great actor as Mickey Rourke had not to take part in that film.
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4/10
9 and a 1/2 would be too high of rating for this film!
Elson32129 June 2005
Sorry to say, but this one completely misses the bulls eye! It could have been an interesting film as Rourke as John trying to find Elizabeth (Kim Basinger's previous role in the first film) was a good plot to go with; John feeling lonely, haunted by her memory, unable to open up and let go even with this red head chick. Interesting themes of love never dying and moving on could have been explored. However, the director didn't pull it off, didn't really know how to take it and that shows.What a shame. Honestly, just watch this film if it's on on a late Friday night and you are not hitting the town, or because you are a big fan of Mickey. Really, it does not deliver, and its a shame because it could have been a chance for this film to outshine 9 and 1/2 weeks, the first movie. Sorry folks!
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5/10
You watch it once and that's just about it....
RandomChick8421 August 2010
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First time I ever watched this film was on my vacation in Jamaica. I didn't see all of it at the time but it stuck with me until I came back to the states and tried to buy it. All I could remember thinking was "WHO IS THAT GORGEOUS REDHEAD?!" I bought the film and curled up with my boyfriend and watched it after dark and watched this...OK film. Mickey Rourke bored the hell out of me because seriously...he had no passion about him. Angie Everhart was fantastic in my opinion but as my boyfriend said about her acting "You can only do so much with a dead fish" the dead fish being Rourke. Right of the bat I felt no chemistry between them. I think Angie is a good actress I just don't think she's found the best movie to show off her greatness. Everhart was the hot French fashion designer and Rourke was....the depressed kinky dude from America that seriously made me wonder why he didn't just kill himself as soon as he found out that Elizabeth was dead.....so Angie Everhart: 9, Rourke: 3, and the movie.....could have been better....a whole lot better
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2/10
I'm all out of love.
Son_of_Mansfield12 May 2007
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If not for the creamy Agathe de la Fontaine, this would be a wholly sad and laughable affair. There is something about French girls with their full lips and flushed faces. Mickey Rourke increasingly creepy facial features don't make him the ideal romantic lead. Mix in a stolen plot straight from Last Tango In Paris and un-erotic direction from the person who brought us Embrace of the Vampire and Poison Ivy II, and you have a movie that no one could love no matter where they live. My biggest draw back is the miss use of Angie Everhart, one of the few redheads in movies. She can play an icy fatale better than most, but she is not so good as the girl looking for love, although she does look good with rose petals and honey smeared on her. The original, directed by Adrian Lyne, is one of the better erotic fests with a more convincing lead in Kim Basinger and a smoother faced Rourke.
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4/10
First one was ok but this is bad
sauravjoshi855 September 2019
Another nine and a half weeks also known as love in Paris is drama movie directed by Anne Goursaud and starring Mickey Rourke, Agathe de La Fontaine and Angie Everhart.

The film tells story (Apologies there is no story in the movie), of John who comes to Paris in search of his ex lover. Now the first part was not that great but this movie is garbage. The movie lacks basic storyline and screenplay. The direction also lacks depth.

As far as acting is concerned Rourke is a good actor but is completely wasted in the movie. Acting of supporting cast is either ok or below ok. The plot was good but wasted due to bad execution.

A movie you can avoid watching.
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1/10
Couldn't have been worse!
memoryi-563418 February 2022
Horrible acting, especially from Angie. Terrible dialogue. They tried too hard to "copy" the playfulness of John with Elizabeth but it just didn't work. Mickey wasn't even good and I typically love Mickey - The Pope of Greenwich Village was excellent t IMO. Complete waste of film. I want that two hours of my life back!
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9/10
Rourke wasted again
largo-929 December 2000
This movie has got only two things to offer:an aging Mickey Rourke and a good soundtrack.There is supposed to be two main characters but Angie Everhart does anything but acting.Combining with the imperfection of the storyline,the failure to give her part a believable depth make the story look so pretentious.However Love in Paris slightly survives thanks to the acting of Mickey Rourke.He gives a rememberable performance as John Gray who,after years,still lives in the past and is unable to forget Elisabeth - played by Kim Basinger in the first part.After his affair with Elisabeth,he is now a man bored of life and in the brink of a suicide who has nothing to hold on till he finds out a way to alter his biggest mistake.So he flies to Paris hoping for a new life.Except the strong performance from Rourke playing John Gray a man who had turned out to be a vulnerable romantic obsessed with the woman he let go from being the fantasy seeking player he had used to be,this movie has nothing else.No acting,no intelligence,no style - although there is a modest effort to form one - and most importantly no intention to tell anything.Just another example of wasting such a good actor.But at least it can make you think about the chances you missed,the misjudgments you did in your life.It sure made me do.
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3/10
Disappointed - bad writing and sloppy plots
nickrex-2835520 October 2022
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I loved the original 9 1/2 Weeks. Period. It was and remains my favorite movie.

I have not read the book but, plan to.

First, why I was disappointed in Another 9 1/2 Weeks.

It's disjointed and darker than it should be. Not a good kind of dark. There's a difference. There's dark sexually and dark depression based.

It begins dark and doesn't move far up the scale from there. Granted, John feels intense regret in how he drove Elizabeth away but, he's taken it to a very dark low

SPOILER!

Once he finds out Elizabeth has died, he drops even lower.

Regarding Bad writing, etcetera

When John notices the scarf Angie's character is wearing, commenting on it, Angie (Lea) affirming that it was indeed Elizabeth's and that she had given it to Lea.

But! It was not "the" scarf from the street fair! That scarf was handmade and colourful. The one in Another 9 1/2 Weeks, was gray and black!

We should all remember the final scene in the first 9 1/2 Weeks. John quietly says, after Elizabeth has left his place, "If you don't come back by the time I count to 50"

Angie's character pokes fun at John by repeating that line while she's playfully running ahead of him in Paris. She's downright mocking him. She claims she read all about Liz and John's relationship in her journal.

Nope!

Why? Because Elizabeth was already out the door, the door absolutely shut, when John said softly, quietly after taking a deep breath, "If you don't come back by the time I count to 50"!

Elizabeth couldn't possibly have beard John say it! So, how come it magically appears in her journal?

Because it didn't. They added this to the sequel I suppose, so Lea could repeat it at the end, where this time John left, as a connection to the first movie.

Sloppy.

John's unwillingness to engage with Lea in the way she wants, was a turn off for John. She was trying to top him from below (that's a good book, by the way) and no dominant will allow that. He won't relinquish control unless it's his idea. I know this first hand. I won't unless it's my idea.

But as she pushed and pushed him, I was waiting for the real John to show up. I said a couple times during the movie, " you're going to get it! If he steps out if his depression, you are going to get more than you bargained for"

It was a good scene but, too short. John showed up and she finally got what she was asking for.

My last thought is, Lea never gave John time to grieve Liz's death - at all. She barely had any empathy or sympathy for him let alone the respect of just backing the hell off of him. I think if whomever wrote the sequel had wrote that into the plot, then quite possibly, the movie could have ended differently. But, they had such a b*ner for working in the, "If you don't come back....", it was impossible for it to end any other way.

Kind of an interesting note. I think the writer of 50 Shades ripped off 9 1/2.

John Grey, Christian Grey 50 Shades, "by the time I count to 50" Both men wealthy businessmen

I've heard that the 50 Shades trilogy is abominable writing but, because it was self publisehed first, selling unreal numbers, the publisher and Amazon overlooked the bad writing.

I'll review the trilogy sometime. I have a lot to write about that!
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The Most Unerotic Erotic Movie Ever Made?
Michael_Elliott2 June 2012
Another 9 1/2 Weeks (1997)

1/2 (out of 4)

What on Earth were they thinking? John Gray (Mickey Rourke) travels to Paris to try and track down Elizabeth but after learning that she's now married he starts up a relationship with a young fashion designer (Angie Everhart). I think 9 1/2 weeks in hell would be much more pleasant that trying to sit through this film. It has one of the worst reputations in the history of sequels and it's easy to see why. It would be like trying to make a Friday THE 13TH film but instead of violence, gore and Jason you threw in singing, good vibes and Barney the dinosaur. I'm really not sure what the producers were thinking but this here is perhaps the most unerotic erotic movie ever made. They clearly were just wanted to cash in on the notoriety of the first movie and I understand that. I'm fine that they were simply wanting to make money but for the life of me why would they deliver something like this? There's very little sex, little nudity and there's nothing erotic that happens. The majority of the overbearing 105-minute running time features the two stars just going into various clubs and getting in trouble. They flirt, they talk, they talk some more and then they go home to do nothing. Director Anne Goursaud might have been given an impossible task but she didn't help matters any. The pacing of the film is downright horrid, the lack of style just made for an ugly mess and I'm really not sure why she decided to make everything so dark. The entire film just seems like a bad nightmare that you can't wake up from and this includes the two leads. Rourke and Everhart have zero chemistry together and Rourke appears bored out of his mind and wishing he was anywhere but in front of the camera. ANOTHER 9 1/2 WEEKS is a really bad movie on all levels and it's even poor when compared to much of the direct-to-Cinemax trash that was making the rounds during this period.
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