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8/10
Excellent
dusan-2228 May 2012
Very intelligent movie with the art film moments. Excellent acting, very good European camera school, good editing. Can't find anything bad about it. Casting was superb and actor who plays Max was just made for this role. Great drama and hard social question about the world we live in with the pretty critical answer suggested. Moral dilemmas in the world without moral are turning against our hero. Then, heroism is relative and changeable in time but money stays the main master. Power of mass control presented by the character of an evil showman looks exactly as the world we live in controlled and operated by mass media. It twists and turns the public opinion when needed and by that controls the moral values by its material needs and not by the need for true. What happens to an honest man as Max in such world is getting lost and then losing himself. Very intelligent portrait of the modern world moral values versus a good man. And one more thing: the movie is definitely not a thriller.
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7/10
Manslaughter
rstySp00n3 June 2012
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A lot is already said in the other reviews, one better than the other, but every review is a persona view on the movie.

I gave the movie 7 out of 10 because of the acting of Theo (main character) I also loved him in TBS (movie about a form of psychological help (TBS) some criminals get upon their punishment viewed by most people as a means to keep them locked up longer). Theo isn't a real actor, but he's a natural talent for dark, psycho, depressed, and weird guys. The rest of the cast did also pretty good, for Dutch standards.

The other reason I gave the movie 7/10 is the idea and the beginning. People being harassed by youth on scooters is a hot item in the Netherlands. Another hot item is the fact that people don't do anything and rather stand and watch or call the police instead of helping victims.

One of the big reasons for this (cowardly) behavior is events in the past of people who did stand up and fought back were actually treated worse and punished harder than the criminal. That's also the red line in the movie, is Max a hero or a villain.

Recent political shifts towards the right spectrum changed some of the laws. The Justice department is now supposed to punish people who harass the emergency services a lot harder, but police and other services complain there aren't many changes. Another change is that peoples who started as the victim but changed the tides on the criminal aren't arrested anymore and treated like a criminal. They are allowed to stay home and go on with their live but are expected to show up at the court when being called in.

Another realistic part of the movie is the influence of the media, the opinion of Dutch people is very easy manipulated also in real live. There are certain TV-shows which are considered "intelligent" and whatever they say is considered "the truth".

This movie combines all those factors pretty good, but it kinda gets over the top and becomes unrealistic. The movie starts with a message but ends with nothing, I think it's a missed opportunity. A bit as if the director didn't know where to go, serious or just entertainment.

too bad, but still a good movie and I would love to see Theo Maassen in a good psycho thriller again.
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7/10
Immigrant problem is the world's problem
olcayozfirat10 January 2024
It is a drama film produced in 2012. As a main idea, it tells about immigrant problems and the problems caused by immigrants through the experiences of an ambulance driver. At the same time, it explains the phenomenon of exclusion and psychological collapse quite well.

Yes, there is an ambulance driver. He goes to respond to emergencies with a young female first aid doctor next to him. Over time, the man becomes attracted to the woman. The woman is of Moroccan origin. She cannot accept his exclusion. On the way to another problematic birth case, a group of people stop the ambulance. There is an injured young man. The doctor checks his condition and tells him to go to the hospital. The group is bullying the injured person into taking him into the ambulance. And when the driver gets out to warn the man, he punches someone when he is attacked and continues on his way to make an emergency call. The young man he punched while saving the baby during an emergency call dies. And problems begin for the man.

There is some sexuality in the movie. But there is no nudity.
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Jumps in every direction,but has an interesting feel to it
Lariekoekje10 September 2012
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After watching this movie, I was left with the feeling I still didn't know what exactly it wanted to say. It touches on so many different subjects and moral dilemmas, but never goes deeper to actually try and give its view on what happens. It goes from ethnic problems in society to the influential power of the media and the moral role of comedians,and more, all in one movie. I believe exploring one or two of these themes in one movie is difficult enough as it is. This is the movie's biggest flaw, in my opinion.

But the same criticism can be applied to the characters. Their motivations are all over the place. They change with almost every scene. And after so many changes, you stop believing in them. The actions of some characters simply don't make sense. Why would Max, a man who lives for caring for others and simply snapped at one point, a man who has honest remorse, actively plan to threaten all the people who have made things hard for him? Why would Felix help/exploit him in such a way? Why do we never see the girlfriend again? I know these questions are sort of answered, but in my opinion, it doesn't make that much sense. The story is full, moves at a very quick pace and doesn't seem to know what it wants to get across. You could even say that there is too much story.

In the strongest scenes of the movie, the atmosphere speaks for itself and there is no need to explain anything or make things more complicated. In the scene where Max watches in silence what his actions on the fatal night have resulted in, there is no commentary or plot line necessary. It's about life and death and the hard work of an ambulance worker standing in between, shown in a grim but realistic manner. It never exaggerates in the way I thought of lot of scenes did. I found myself asking 'are there really so many people out there who act like this?' The problems and difficult people the ambulance workers are faced with seem so plentiful and over the top that it seems as if everyone is out to get them.

The locations and interesting music add loads of atmosphere to this movie, and are, next to the great, intense performances from everyone in the cast, the best part of it. The camera is well used to intensify this. The only thing I did not think was necessary at all, was the temporary shift to black and white. I thought it was more distracting than anything else.

Theo Maassen is great in this role. The script makes him play many different aspects of Max as a character (powerless and remorseful at first, angry later and desperate in the end) but he pulls them all off naturally. It's also very interesting from a 'meta' point of view to see an actor playing a comedian make fun of a comedian who is an actor here. The self-referential value of the scenes with Max on stage is remarkable. These points, and the destructive but touching ending makes this movie worth watching, in my opinion.
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6/10
The movie is only interesting in the first part, and could have been better if real actors would have been hired.
Arconada27 October 2012
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This could have been an interesting movie, but it failed for more than one reasons.

Being a public figure is not everybody's cup of tea. Max (the leading part) feels humiliated when he sees himself in a TV-show after he has been secretly filmed at his job, working on an ambulance. A comedian, a sidekick in a popular TV-show, ridicules him publicly for his docile behavior in a confrontation with some obnoxious people.

Not long after, Max is confronted again with youth who aggressively block his way on a ride to a matter of life-or-death childbirth. Is it the humiliation or the stress? It's not clear, but he beats one of the youngsters and continues his ride, saves the mother and baby, only to find out that the youngster he has hit is taken to hospital as well, and dies there. Unfortunately, this incident was also filmed in secret, and aired on the same TV-show, and commented on by the same comedian.

He is sentenced for manslaughter.

The dilemma, this life or that life, is shown very well, and by itself is enough to make an interesting movie. Unfortunately, the movie doesn't stop there. The tension bleeds away when the movie continues; after his release from prison he finds he lost his job and is confronted again with the group of youngsters, who seek revenge. In trying to cool down the situation, he only makes things worse. He is driven into the hands of the comedian who ridiculed him before, and gets used by him in his stage act. Finally he gets himself a gun and goes on a "nothing left to lose" spree to set things right. It ends with his suicide.

As I said, the tension is only present in the first part of the movie; the rest just makes the movie weak. But there is more. First of all, the main character, Max, is supposed to be a good-natured fellow. Unfortunately, the movie makers did not choose an actor but a comedian for this role. And not just any comedian, no, it's a comedian especially known for his abusive behavior. How else would you call someone, who brags about his stealing of sport-trophy's, who is convicted for sexually attacking a female spectator on stage, who smashed the expensive equipment of a professional photographer, or who publicly compared the looks of an aging popular female singer with the aberration of necrophilia? This is the man that now has to convince us that he is a meek ambulance driver. That's an impossible task for someone who is not a professional actor, of course. But that is not all. The taxi driver that delivers him a gun, as well as the father of the boy that was killed are not trained actors but comedians as well. They both have single line performances, so they are not able to shake off that comedy-feeling on first recognition. The sidekick in the TV-show, however, supposed to be a comedian, is really an actor (thank heavens for that). When following his script as the sidekick, he plays his role better than anybody else in this movie, but when he has to play his role as a comedian on stage, he can't convince us as such, because they forgot to give him some interesting lines.

Why did they make those reversals, why did they not use real actors? The acting of the comedians is not at all convincing.

Strangely enough, a real find is the use of the talk show in this movie. It's actually a real and popular show which sometimes really does abuse anonymous bystanders in previously aired TV-clips, dragging them into the focal point of attention, like "...pay notice to these people in the background, see how silly they behave." Some of the sidekicks in this show are known for their controversial statements, like naming people in unfounded accusations of child molest or promotion of mob justice. I have no idea why the producers of this tv-show ever thought it was a good thing to cooperate in this movie.

All in all, the movie is only interesting in the first part, and could have been better if real actors would had been hired.
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10/10
Without Compromising. Dark, very Relevant, and Very very good
martijn-154-31231716 January 2012
It's hard to write a review about such a relevant movie. "Why?" is the question that will enter your mind probably. Well, when you write a review about a relevant movie with themes so important in this time, you want to make sure you don't criticize the theme's but the movie.

Theo Maassen, whom is most of all one of the best comedian's the Lower lands has, plays this movie with finesse and touching realness. This is a hard movie. Not only does it depict reality very accurately. this reality is a reality without solutions, it's a reality with hard decisions, choices and dilemmas. Theo Maassen fits perfectly in this harsh dark world. No one else, and i really mean no one else could 've played this role better. no American, no Johnny Depp, No Elijah Wood, no dutch, nor American actor which i know. Now, you might have detected i'm a big fan of Theo Maassen. True. it might not be objective at all. But his acting is so fine, so detailed and filled with doubt I don't believe any other actor could do this. Mainly because Maassen plays this like a person, like a really human being, overwhelmed with reality.

Besides the wonderful acting of Maassen, also Gijs van Scholten Aschat plays his role as a comedian (a role which Theo plays in real life) to the point. Almost like it's real. It's a Dutch movie, you can see that. Now don't get me wrong, i'm not a superb film critic, i haven't seen "all" dutch movies nor a lot non American/British but this movie really has a dutch taste. The grimness, the hard themes it depicts and the uneasiness that crawls up under your chair are astonishing. The image is raw. The acting is raw. The story is raw. The decisions made in this movie are raw. So far for style, it deserves a fat 10.

Now about this themes. As we know from American movies they can really solve problems right? This movie doesn't solve. It poses questions. Now for that fact it could 've still been some art like fancy documentary. The good thing about this movie is that it doesn't just pose questions it asks questions which have no answer. These questions are a logical event of occurrences and don't ask for an "opinion" they just are. The way the characters deal with them are completely understandable but not predictable. Not at all. No spoilers. The themes are very relevant for our society. The questions are important not for people who work in hospitals or drive ambulances. On one hand it reminds us that all our media, and the ones that use it, should watch their mouth. It reminds us that saying "act normal" is easier said than done. It reminds our street kids to watch out who you bother and our "normal people" that sticky situations are easily created and hard to solve.

I actually wanted to write that this is not a movie for "normal people" but that's not what this is about. This is a movie without compromising, a movie without understandable questions, without happy ending, without answers, without solutions, without a shine on reality. Definitely a European movie. Definitely not for the ones who like easygoing happy endings. Ex-Drummer is the only movie i can compare this one with. but this one has a political tone. Starting with the first shot we get: a Quote from our prime minister saying "We need to win our society back from the bad guys". Well, after the first few minutes you already understand that this is not as easy as it sounds. Who are these bad guys? Bad guys apparently all have reasons to be one. These reasons are created by situations. This is a movie showing how bad guys are created. Unintentionally.

This is probably one of the best Dutch movies I've ever seen. If you cant' see it in cinemas, buy it. If you can't? Download it. it's to important to not see. Check it out!
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9/10
Excellent drama/thriller that puts the finger on the sore spot
markvanwasbeek29 May 2012
'Doodslag' (which translates to Manslaughter) tells us the story of Max, a veteran ambulance-driver who gets driven to mental breakdown. The build up of the story is quite fast, and after some minor incidents showing Max getting disrespected and even made fun of on national television by a famous comedian it eventually leads up to the unintended death of a young street thug. On their way to a emergency delivery Max (and his new colleague (Amira, portrayed by Maryam Hassouni)get stopped by a group of street youth when their friend had a accident and has superficial headinjuries. The tension builds up, and with all the stress Max has to cope with he snaps, hits one of the guys who falls on the curb and dies on the spot. Max is sent to prison for one year, but it doesn't stop there. The friends of the street thug are bound for vengeance, and start threatening and harrasing him. In the mean time the comedian that made fun of him earlier finds himself feeling sorry for his actions, and hires Max as his personal driver.

I found this movie to be very intelligent and uncomprimizing. This film shows the degrading of society (emergency personell frequently get harassed in the Netherlands these days) but it does not judge whether Max is a criminal or a hero. The Maassen reprises a strong role (after his first movie: TBS) and I think no other Dutch actor can portray such a dark and gritty character. Maryam Hassouni also portrays an excellent role as Amira and I also see a bright future for her acting career as well.

I also find the directing very good, I am only guessing why the 2nd chapter is in black and white. The only reason I can think of is some 'artsy' addition or something. The soundtrack is also very good, and fits the film very well.

Overall I would say this is a must see, and another gem of Dutch cinematography. These don't come around very often.

9/10
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5/10
Uneven
billcr1225 May 2012
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The word doodslag means manslaughter in Dutch, and it begins with an ambulance responding to a stab victim, and after calming him down and telling him that he will be fine, but as they drive to a hospital, he flatlines. They stop and attempt cpr, but he dies. Max blames himself for the man's death for underestimating the seriousness of the injury.

He gets a new partner, Amina, a Moroccan woman, and their first call is for a bad drug reaction at a nightclub where a nasty, racist comic is performing. As they revive the girl the host insults them both, including anti Muslim remarks aimed at Amina. They leave and when watching television, see that they were being taped at the club.

The next emergency is for a woman with a difficult childbirth. On route, the two are stopped by Moroccan youth, demanding that they help one of their friends with a head injury. Amina bandages it and tells them that the kid will be fine, but they insist that he be taken to the hospital. Max explains the need to leave quickly for the pregnant woman's emergency. As they argue and one of the boys yells at them, Max punches him in the face, he hits his head on the curb and dies. Max and Amina manage to save the mother and baby but the police arrive and arrest Max. He serves one year in jail for manslaughter and can't get a job when he is released from prison. The vicious comedian who insulted him earlier in the nightclub hires him as a driver and has him join the act onstage, where he manipulates the crowd, depending on Max's responses to questions about the night of the trouble.

Max apologizes to the family of the boy he killed, but the harassment continues, including Max's girlfriends house being burned down. He is assaulted and responds by getting a gun for intimidation. He confronts the comic he drives around and the movie just fizzles out at the end. The story and editing are haphazard, with very poor structure, so at best it is a 5/10.
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5/10
Fear
rob-broekhof-127 May 2012
Grading this movie with a "five" means grading as "doubtful".

Why?!

The Movie starts with a quote from a Prime Minister from the Netherlands (from 08/10/2010 until 23/04/2012). A free translation of this quote: "We want to reclaim society from the bastards".

I resent that kind of promotion of collective fear, especially because of the way it came across to me in this movie.

In the beginning I was able to recognize what was happening; after several drawbacks and being torn between being considered to be a hero and a criminal … the main character "Max" snaps … BUT … how this turns out in the end, was very unlikely.

I believe the film should have ended at the point where he drew a gun on those young bastards that were harassing him all the time. One of the intentions of Max was to balance the escalation level of this degenerated conflict … I do not think that there would have been any other way … the law really does protect bastards too much I guess.

Alas, Max kept on degenerating after that, and this is where I felt it became doubtful … because how to reclaim society from the bastards when people like Max also become a bastard?! Until then, I think that he truly made a pretty successful effort to act sane!

On top of that … I really wonder whether these annoying boys or Max represent the TRUE bastards of society …

I guess not … and I do feel that all bastards are basically full of fear … and that the enemy is within US … and it's called FEAR as well … the FEAR for the need to defend yourself in situations as depicted in this movie, and … the FEAR for yourself to do really bad stuff to other people ... to make a true effort to find out how "Room 101" needs to be prepared for someone you dearly hate ... an example of the danger of individual FEAR.

Room 101 is a place introduced in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell. It is a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love in which the Party attempts to subject a prisoner to his or her own worst nightmare, fear or phobia ... another example of the danger of collective FEAR … the FEAR that this Prime Minister and the movie makers are promoting
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3/10
Unfortunately does not reflect reality.
w-hermans8911 January 2013
Regardless the mediocre acting and cinematography, my prime concern about this movie is the way it portrays the current happenings in the Dutch society, in the hopes of inciting more debate about topics that are already heavily discussed.

I cringed at the scene where Max (an ambulance driver), under pressure of feeling to have to act out against the (unfortunately all too customary) hindrance of and violence against public service personnel, lashed out against a bystander who tried to calm his friend and Max down during a verbal quarrel that resulted because of a group of youth purposely obstructing the ambulance from reaching a woman in labour. This is ridiculous and a perfect example of how politically laden this movie is. There is one particular group of people, with a certain ethnicity that is particularly notorious for the aforementioned obstructive behaviour with regards to public services (and has come under fire for this) and what this film is trying to make clear here is that we should refrain from thinking in black and white (which I agree with), but this entire situation does not reflect reality, at all.

There can be no debate about this: Max deserves to be trialled for manslaughter – he used violence, regardless his motives, against someone who was actually trying to calm things down. This is however, completely unrealistic! I know this from experience and from people who have had jobs at public services. It would've been different, if the people who obstructed the ambulance had attacked Max first, and then Max would have been on trial for manslaughter (and sentenced, which unfortunately happens a lot, as well), which would have made more sense, would have actually reflected reality and relates directly to the debate about how and to what extent people should be able to defend themselves.

This film screams: "you Dutch people are xenophobic and racist and should stop judging people from certain ethnicities". Another horrible example of this is the remark of one of the bystanders, in another instance during which the ambulance personnel is hindered, at Max' co- driver (who happens to be Muslim, but is as Dutch as can be) that "Mecca is that way.". I am ashamed of this atrocity of leftist propaganda that sketches a twisted image of what is happening in the poorer, urban parts of our country (namely the continuous harassment of citizens by people of a certain ethnicity and their continuous perpetration of criminal offenses) for the people who live their lives happily in their ivory towers of the middle and upper class.

In Dutch: deze film slaat de plank volledig mis.
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