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6/10
It's complicated
onefineday3613 September 2023
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It's clearly a low budget feature, and one sees it from get go. Camera works, edit and sound design all are less than sophisticated. I have seen quite a few cringe or even horrible low budget features before, so I kind of prepared myself for the worst case.

But in conclusion it was actually turned out a pleasant surprise. It's definitely not a product of high artistic ambition or a groundbreaking marvel. But the conversations capture the realistic flow of the young 'mates' who are not quite yet grown up men, and the actors do manage to pull it off enough. And the hidden tension and interaction behind the surface become quickly and surprisingly complicated.

Is Cornnor gay? Did he fancy Nate and that's why he agreed to go on hiking? Is Adam really serious about Cornnor? Why does he seem to flirt with just about anybody then? And what about Nate? Is he a closet case who was peer-pressured to play a big macho guy?

In the time where being Gay is OK and boundaries of sexuality is getting blurred, this little 4 men play captures the challenge and confusion of the younger generation who grew up in that environment. For me, Mark, who represents a straight man, was actually most interesting character. Belonging to the new generation, he does not display clear homophobia any more. He definitely can get along with gays... so long he is sure who is gay and who is straight. If he can't be sure whether his mates are gay or straight, how could he know how to treat them or, as he constantly does, reaffirm his own straight identity and territory?

Overall, it was definitely interesting and worth a watch. Give it a go without expecting too much, and go with its flow.
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7/10
Mates was subpar but not horrible
edwedw23 February 2024
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Dialogue driven. I thought the dialogue was good. This was not a bad movie, it simply wasn't LGBTQ in its focus but rather friendship focuses, or journey focused mostly. It had more of a gay themes film vibe for the bulk of the film. And I think the movie achieves a purpose of how we bungle things gay or straight and clearly defines structure or a rather a paradigm of some people's friendships. How they work: there is an alpha, a jovial one, one who sort of knows their self but is self conscious, etc.

Adam (the one who trepasses into the group) is a free loving spirit. He feels, he knows, he says, and his family is aware that he is not straight. He is searching for something. He's just young and maybe naive, but not in a harmful way. I think he's just overly friendly and occasionally that could get someone in the real world in trouble.

Nathan is kind and sweet natured. He does just about everything Mark tells him to. He's has to grow out of that (or maybe he is if only too slowly). If only so he stays happy. He wants everyone to get along and I understand that. Towards the end, I see more of a self establishment of his spirit and it makes me happy. It'll take growing pains but I see him achieving heights, he has to learn to have difficult discussions.

Mark is a bully, vocally aggressive. I like the Connor waited for him to say please, when he demanded he take the empty bottles to the trash. Mark is also the type of person who says he alright with gay people but isn't due to something deep in him whether it be fear, disgust, etc. I'm not certain, but he can also be oblivious to the waves he causes. He is an abject dick and his favorite line is "this is not a debate". I think that's his father coming out through his mouth.

Connor is aware of himself but not as confident as I initially thought. When pressured he caves, I liked in the beginning that he did not. But I find him to be adorable and consciously friendly. He is figuring out who he is. I like that he has the ability to be outspoken. I think he'll only get stronger.

Well done. I walked away feeling like my time was not wasted.
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6/10
Lost opportunity, Decent actors, Poor script
ToneBalone6025 November 2023
This could have been so much better. The message was well setup but the plot waa pedestrian, the script amateur at best.

It comes across like a college drama class attempt at a movie.

The cinematography is good but the chemistry and the dialogue is severely short of the mark and doesn't drive the film forward.

A disappointing unfulfilled destination. Cut off with no resolution, thus following the standard trope of gay fim endings.

Sadness, loss, missed chances and a general downer.

I thought we had moved on with gay movies by now and stopped being locked into the victim and outsider narrative.

The most realistic part was the bully who actually delivered a good performance that felt natural.

The protagonist character was so isolated that it made no sense that he would have even embarked on the journey. This wasn't so much about gay guilt, shyness or subconscious homophobia but more about depression, self confidence and mental health.

You can feel sorry for someone only so far. But when they don't try to engage and accept friendship their fate become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Connor, the protagonist as such became irritating, selfish and a general tantrum driven bore. I would have had far less patience with someone who doesn't even try to embrace their own existence.
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7/10
A lot of these reviews are missing the mark
radiokilla-0481717 February 2024
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To start off, the script could've been written a lot better. The relationship between Connor and Nathan should've been given a little more context. Connor is a shy guy that alot of people clearly aren't accepting of.

This is a story of Connor going on a hike and being pursued by a very forward and out gay guy. Connor struggles to fully accept this as he has to also deal with Mark, who constantly makes both Connor and Nathan feel inadequate. You're meant to infer that Connor and Nathan's regular hikes were their way of straddling the border of having romantic feelings but never acting on them out of fear. Nathan becomes upset because while he's still paralyzed by fear instilled by society and Mark, Connor managed to beat those fears and break through that wall with the help of Adam. In the end, seeing Nathan almost cry but still decides to leave gives a sense of his regret in not opening up to Connor in the many times he had a chance and now he has to, in a way, let him go.

It would've been nice if the relationship between Nathan and Connor was explored to its fullest potential. Although every movie doesn't need a happy ending, a simple acknowledgement from Nathan of his feelings for Connor in the end while still having things go the way they did would've created a more well-rounded script. If the creator is willing, a sequel/prequel could be a very nice way to round things out now that this is out.
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7/10
Enjoyable
qfcphcbz9 March 2024
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I was going to give this movie a miss after some of the reviews on here and I am glad I watched Mates.

The film has beautiful English countryside.

It was refreshing to see a film where the chemistry between the characters was intense and does often mirror some shy personalities. Conor is clearly not a brash, openly gay man.

It didn't bother me that the acting wasn't Oscar award standard but it moved me and made me think how some people even today struggle with their sexuality.

Conor tries to impress his walking companions in his journey but in the end he realises that he just needs to be himself.
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2/10
Cheap, Amateurish & Best Avoided
ozjosh27 August 2023
In general, the standard of independent gay films has greatly improved in recent years. So much so that it's surprising that something as cheap, clumsy and amateurish as Mates can still earn a release. Mates is poorly scripted, the characters are wafer thin and if it weren't for the English countryside the film would have no production values at all. None of the actors is strong enough to rise above the weak material, and they're not helped by pedestrian direction and editing. Technical aspects aside, the central character, Connor, is unappealing. His would-be seducer, Adam, is entirely unbelievable - pursuing Connor in front of his apparently very straight mates, and after Connor has said he's not gay and not interested. And the mates are clumsy straight stereotypes, albeit with an equally clumsy attempt and questioning just how straight one of them might be. At what might seem a mercifully short 80 minutes, Maters is still 60 minutes longer than it needed to be.
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10/10
Dialogue Driven movie
txpchy29 August 2023
Seen it three times now. It gets better each time. The dialogue is crisp and natural. Nothing is spelled out so you need to observe and think.

This movie is not for everyone. But I loved it. The acting is exceptional.

Sam Law is a special standout, however. He has blazing star potential if he can just get in the right project.

Also the direction is exceptional, keeping track of not only the group dynamics but also the various one on one relationships while giving everyone a concrete character arc cannot be an easy task.

It follows four men on a camping trip, there is a mix of prior relationships and new relationships. As the four get to know each other (It's really a group of three with an outsider that keeps interrupting them) the dynamic changes slowly but steadily until we are at a vastly different situation than which we started. I really don't want to say any more because there are so many rewarding small surprises tucked into this film that one only discovers upon repeat viewings.

Hopefully this movie will find an audience. It deserves it in spades.
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2/10
Very amateur, poor story with a some hypermasculinity thrown in
andrew_j_mcgovern3 January 2024
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The story is quite slow and the writing is poor. The lead character is clearly socially inept. The 2 friends are a juxtaposition of sorts; one is very friendly and liberal, the other is quite toxic. There's one scene where Mark interrogates Nathan as to why he goes running with Connor when they both live quite far away. The whole kiss scene with Adam is incredibly weird and not well written. It's like they intended for Nathan to bring Connor out of his shell but the execution is poor. The character of Mark takes issue with everyone in the movie at some point and it serves no purpose other than for the other characters to repress themselves. If anything he's a bully. It doesn't serve the story in the long run. Take my advice....swerve it.
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8/10
A sweet, quiet little movie, in the best possible way.
Bill-i-am7 October 2023
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I disagree with the reviewer who found nothing to like in this film. Maybe I am Arno Crous' target audience? I really enjoyed his earlier short, "Happy Families" which I found to be well-conceived and actualized.

I found the characters in Mates to be well-drawn by the various actors, and I found the characters and situations quite believable. The various dynamics around the new-and-old friendships at the center of the story seemed quite real to me. Hierarchy, attractions, affinities, jealousies--all very believable to me in the way these themes are explored and expressed. Sam Law's Nathan, the character whom at first blush might seem the least interesting among the four leads, actually is quite complicated and maybe the most mysterious. Law managed to create a different flavor of awkward sexual tension with each of the three others. I look forward to seeing him in other roles.

To be fair, I thought ALL of the leads were quite good, and the ensemble seemed natural. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some of the dialogue was improvised.

As far as the low budget....so what? I thought the camera work, framing, editing, music were all rather artfully and tastefully done. Sort of a cinema verite vibe.

There is a lot of talent on display here. Crous is a helluva writer, and a promising young director. There are four actors I find worth keeping on the radar.

Nothing Hollywood here, including the ending. If you are looking for Hollywood, look elsewhere. If you are willing to meet this movie on its own terms, I think you will find a lot to appreciate. I sure did.
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1/10
Zzzzzzzzzzz
eddie-693254 November 2023
This film is a total snooze fest, don't know how I managed to stay awake for the entire film. Poor opening scene, watching someone walking up some stairs and then sitting on a bench waiting, how exciting. Although I quite enjoyed the Connor character and his quirkiness found the others characters uninteresting. Some of country side was nice to look at but was very disappointed with the ending, 1 hour and 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Would ask for a refund if that was an option. Has to be one of the worst films I've ever seen. So boring don't waste your time or money renting this.
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2/10
Terrible
scottinhawaii-11 October 2023
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This is the longest 81 minutes ever. Slow. Boring. Terrible dialogue. Bad acting. Even the chance for showing the beautiful countryside isn't exploited. So many missed opportunities.

Mark is an insufferable twit. But his character is also all over the place. At one point basically telling Nathan he'd would be OK if Nathan were gay and the next minute talking about beating the gay guy.

You get the feeling Nathan may be gay too, but maybe he's just a good guy. We'll never know for sure.

Connor is confused and that turns into 90% brooding his way through the trip.

The best thing was learning about what backpacking is like in England. But it leaves me with a question: where did all that beer come from?
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10/10
Excellent Movie!
Sabornieto-108-72224 February 2024
"Mates" (2023) is a heartwarming film that explores themes of sexuality and masculinity in a gentle and relatable manner. The movie showcases strong male characters, both gay and straight, set against the backdrop of a stunning hiking trail in England. Despite not being groundbreaking in the realm of LGBTQ+ cinema, "Mates" offers a sweet and nice-natured story with beautiful nature locations that highlight the UK's scenic beauty.

Reviewers have praised the film for its simplicity, character development, and cozy vibe, making it a pleasant watch for a laid-back afternoon. While some technical aspects may not be perfect, the unpredictability of the characters and their interactions keeps viewers engaged. Overall, "Mates" is a charming addition to gay films in 2023.
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3/10
Poorly Directed and Scored Mess
NobleHam13 November 2023
It's all bad, but I think honestly the biggest problem with this movie is it's marketing. It's being sold as a straight guy being seduced when that's not what happens at all. A gay-played guy accepts his sexuality and gets preyed on by a creep instead.

The first scene where they meet is honestly so creepy, and although it gets better that never rubs off. Their relationship starts such on the wrong foot that it can't get better.

The score is also a problem. It feels like it's trying to remind us of Brokeback Mountain, but it does so only superficially. Unfortunately the movie can't hope to reach that level. But dear God does it try so often. That same overwrought theme is played repeatedly.

But at no point in the film do we see any real basis for a relationship between the main character and his stalker.
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5/10
I was trying to warm to this film.....
stm-0340418 September 2023
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I'm sure the higher scored reviews are genuine... questionable more like... but I just had to struggle warming to this film.

Connor is just an awkward, closet "not" gay guy training with a very touchy feely... sexually confused straight fitness guy.. who let's admit this... was FIT!

His mate Mark was the only half decent funny/ish actor who seemed relatively real and sarcastic.

And what I don't understand was... was Nathan genuinely upset that Connor didn't want to leave him and was Nathan constantly trying to flirt with him in a not-so gay.. inconspicuous straight way?

I didn't quite understand where that was going and was he jealous that Adam.. the persuar actual only out gay character there.. was getting in there first with Connor?

I wouldn't exactly say any of the scenes were "electric" or.. enthusiastically gripping a captive audience.

There just needed to be some more... urrrrggghh.. ummmph!
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1/10
Deadly
laduqesa30 December 2023
I managed twenty minutes and, in a flash of anger at the time I was wasting, switched the whole unconvincing, sorry, amateurish mess off.

The first spoken dialogue during the jog in the park engendered the idea in me that this was going to be a talentless, poorly-acted, badly-scripted farago of tosh. Do those "actors" actually have Equity cards? If so, the union should swoop down and confiscate them so these utterly dire people never sully our screens again.

This was so bad that it was embarrassing; I actually felt sorry for the actors having to recite these lines and act out this nonsense despite their complete uselessness.

It's gone, deleted and good riddance.
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