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6/10
Indie Stretches Credibility But It Can Be a Reasonably Decent Watch
larrys38 August 2015
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If you can tolerate all the contrivances and credibility stretches in this indie, you may find in then end it's a reasonably decent watch.

Set in Ogden, Utah amidst the picturesque snow capped mountains, Ben Barnes stars as Ryan, a street musician and aspiring song writer, who drifts from town to town mostly aboard freight trains, until one day he arrives in Ogden, and meets up with and begins to perform with his friend Georgie (Lyle Werner).

The ever charismatic Katherine Heigl co-stars as Jackie, who has just left her husband in New York, and returned to her hometown of Ogden with her daughter Lia (Emily Alyn Lind) and will stay at her mother's home there. Although not a lot of details are given, we learn she is about to enter bitter divorce proceedings with her husband, which may include a fierce custody battle for Lia.

By happenstance, Jackie and Ryan's paths will collide on the streets of Ogden, and there is an immediate chemistry between the two, as they both have the common ground of music, with Jackie being a former pop singer and guitarist. Ryan will eventually learn he may have a recording studio opportunity in Portland, Oregon, so the question will be which paths Jackie and Ryan will take, and how it will all turn out.

All in all, the movie written and directed Ami Canaan Mann can test your tolerance for plot contrivances. However, boosted by the performances of Heigl and Barnes, with good support form Lind, this indie kept me just interested enough to wonder how it would all end up. Additionally, I would say the film is bolstered by a flourish at the end, which includes some excellent bluegrass music.
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5/10
Just a watch really.
nfb-500516 August 2015
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Just a watch! I watched this out of idle curiosity, whilst I don't regret the time spent it will certainly will not have any lasting memory, it was just slightly better than watching space go by! Whilst I realise that film is constrained by time there was just not enough given to developing what was deemed important enough to mention but not important enough to explain. With a visit of care and a funeral who and what was "Cowboy?" What happened with the sale of the condo, both struggling for money, suddenly enough for the purchase of a guitar. What happened to Jackie's singing career, surely if she was that successful there was a pot of money somewhere? The songs whilst passable were not exactly great, in tune with the film, so just a listen.
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6/10
Excellent Music
momster000516 May 2020
Beautiful guitar and singing, but movie was too depressing/boring and stopped watching half way through.
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Pretty good, but the screenplay is a bit weak
MovieIQTest3 July 2015
I don't think this film is a great one but somehow it's a good one; good enough to allow you to sit through to the end. Ben Barnes played the Ryan role and performed it with depth. Katherine Heigl played Jackie, also did a good job. But both of them were blocked to be great just because the screenplay (the storyline, the scenario, the plot) was too weak to be evolved into a greater movie and allowed them to become more memorable. Heigl also looked a bit older than Ryan in this film, but since she already got a daughter and under lot of stress to dissolve her marriage, looking older was acceptable. All the songs in this film were not bad but same as the script, all fell short for deeper, more moving and more touching songs. Those lyrics and melodies were also a bit vague and monotonous, short of passion. Ben indeed played guitar well, but his voice was not great, too thin and too narrow without depth and resonance either.

This is a watchable but not great film. I gave it 7 just because I like Ben Barnes a lot. If he could find better scripts and better roles, he could be great. By the way, the girl who played Jackie's daughter was a cute little button, very lovely.
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7/10
nice little indie
calb-059154 November 2015
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Nice simple story where a a drifter/musician meets a single mom struggling to leave her former life. both need to make some difficult life choices on how to move forward.

it is well acted by barnes and heigl and a strong supporting cast.

not great singing voices by the leads, but they aren't suppose to be highly successful musicians, so it is OK. movie is pleasant enough to watch and director ami mann gives us a strong sense of place (Utah rural community, folks just getting by, folks wanting to leave to make it somewhere else and end up coming back after). She manages a consistently smooth, non-sentimental, indie tone to the film.
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7/10
A simplest music-drama, a little inspiring over one's self-confidence.
Reno-Rangan4 February 2016
From the director of 'Texas Killing Field' comes a simple music- drama with a little romance in it. A plot that was built around when two people meet at a crossroad. One is looking forward breakthrough in the music career and the other one has been there. Besides a single mother fighting for a child custody as a subplot and other few extra characters were added for the movie to brighten up. That did not help to make the plot tighter and faster, instead left behind many unanswered. Anyway, most part of the narration stayed dry.

Looking at the performances, location and the direction, it was not a bad movie. The story that progressed at a lazy pace is what I felt is the tumble. It should have been better, but still watchable film and not for everyone. It is another movie about the life's hardship. All about the personal life as well as the social life and finding a way to blend them together. Great cast, fine music and a decent ending. Overall, failed to impress, but worth a watch for being different and a slightly gripping due to the realistic approach.

6½/10
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2/10
Slow
ctourteau28 December 2015
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I am not even half way through this movie. Very slow. Terribly boring. There is no excitement, no twist, no surprise, no thrill. Nothing much to this film. Total waste of time. The slowness and speed, the conversations between the actors are boring. The little bit of singing and music is alright. As the movie progresses I have only one desire that is to turn it off and look for something good. Clearly this is a bad one. It is suppose to be a romantic movie but there is little about that part too. This is probably one of the worst movie I have allowed myself to watch this long. Nothing about that movie or in that movie makes the viewer wish to keep watching. I was checking the reviews online and saw that it was rated a 3 star. I thought it was out of 5 stars. This is why I decided to watch it. Out of 5 it is a 1.
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6/10
Watchable but questionable message
phd_travel8 September 2016
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A busker and a single mom form a romance in a cold Oregon town. The premise sounds dull but the movie is actually quite involving. He helps her from an accident and fixes her roof. They bond over playing the guitar and singing. They start a romance.

Katherine Heigl is a good actress and watchable. Don't get why such a beautiful woman is stuck with no money in the upcoming divorce. Why didn't she kick the wealthy Manhattan based husband out of the matrimonial home and use their joint money to fight the divorce? Anyway how can anyone prefer that frozen hick town to NYC? Surely not good to uproot the daughter and make her live there sitting on the porch and strumming away. I agree with the husband! Ben Barnes does an okay busker singing country songs. Strange they had to get a British actor to play and sing a role like this. The casting of grandma, Sheryl Lee and daughter the girl from Revenge is quite good they all look alike.

The ending was a bit premature.
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2/10
Not worth the watch
shannonhobson-638301 April 2017
I watched this film with high expectations after looking at the reviews on here and it having a good rating on Netflix, I can honestly say I was extremely disappointed. The film did not have a clear story line and the little story line that it did have was not fully explained. All in all this film was definitely a waste of time and I would not recommend it to anyone.
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7/10
A sweet musical
derekdeksmith4 February 2023
As musicals go, this one is no La La Land. The plot is rather thin. Almost evanescent, there are no plot twists, and the outcome is about as predictable as it gets, but the leads are rather pleasant and do their best with what they are given. The photography was a bit uninspired, with beautiful vistas all but ignored, although full marks for the industrial doom. There's a bogeyman, all viciousness telegraphed. There's a sweet child, a little too sweet given her backstory. Friends are all wonderfully friendly, without side, anger or resentment.

So why the 7 stars? It was rather sweet. The music was excellent, enjoyable and entrancing, even if you aren't a fan of Country. Foot tapping times make up for the rather slow parts of the storytelling. We all know the ending well before quarter way through, but the ambiance is enticing. This, you can't help thinking, is the way all relationships start.

Pleasant acting, pleasant location, wonderful music: what more could you need for a lazy afternoon?

It won't change your life, but it might make you feel more positive when facing your minor problems.
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3/10
Boring and quite depressing! 3/10
leonblackwood12 September 2015
Review: Man, this film was really boring. I was hoping for something major to happen in the storyline but it stays on a slow pace and depressing theme, all the way through the film. Its about a drifter whose hoping for a big break in the music business whilst busking in various places. He then comes across a woman whose been knocked down on the road by mistake, so he runs to her rescue, not realising that his possessions are being stolen at the same time. The lady, Jackie Laurel (Katherine Heigl), decides to offer the man, Ryan Brenner (Ben Barnes) a roof over his head and some hot food, which he gladly accepts after living rough in trains for some time. He then takes on some odd jobs around the house, like fixing there leaking roof, but her mum isn't happy with the arrangement so she makes his stay quite uncomfortable. Jackie is also a country singer who had a few hits in her time but now she is a single mother whose going through an emotional divorce were she has to fight to keep custody of her young daughter. Together, they help each other through troubled times and manage to find joy in life whilst trying to sort out there problems. I got bored after the first few minutes but the talented guitarist/country singer, Ryan, did play some good tunes. The storyline didn't seem to go anywhere and there love for each other was a dead end right from the beginning. I was left feeling empty when the film ended because nothing major happened all the way through the film. I thought that the poor drifter was going to make it big in the music world and come back to save Jackie but it ended quite abruptly which made the film a bit pointless. The love story is sweet and it's nice that these two people from completely two different world's, joined together and fell in love but I really struggled to stay awake through the film. Disappointing!

Round-Up: Katherine Heigl, 36, is known for her comedy roles in films like Knocked Up, 27 Dresses, the Ugly Truth, Killers, Life As We Know It and the Big Wedding and she has taken on some dramatic roles in Descendant, Evil Never Dies, Valentine and Bride of Chucky. Her career blossomed after starring in the hit series Grey's Anatomy in 2005 and she hasn't stopped working ever since then. She also starred in 13 episodes of State Of Affairs during 2014-2015 so her acting career for the big screen had to be put on hold. I doubt that this film will damage her success as a Rom-Com specialist but if she's hoping to switch into the dramatic genre, she will have to pick her projects a bit better. Ben Barnes, 34, played the lead in Dorian Gary and also starred in the Chronicles of Narnia franchise, Stardust, the Big Wedding and Seventh Son but he's yet to become a household name. I personally find his acting quite weak but I was impressed with his singing and guitar playing skills in this movie. This is the second major movie release for director Ami Canaan Mann who also directed the intense thriller, Texas Killing Fields. I don't exactly know what she was trying to achieve with this movie because it does have a glum feeling through most of it but love does manage to eventually find a way which is what made the film slightly watchable. I still can't imagine myself watching it again anytime soon but I'm sure that there are many people out there that would enjoy this emotional drama.

I recommend this movie to people who are into their emotional dramas about a train hopping busker whose fighting to make it in the music world and a former country star whose fighting to keep her daughter. 3/10
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10/10
Fascinating world of street music and great actors
supermaggie7 June 2016
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If you expect a Nicholas Sparks romance you will be disappointed. If you expect a movie about a couple who have to fight conflicting circumstances and arguments with parents/ex-partners etc. you will be disappointed. But if you do not see it as a romantic comedy but go with the flow of the story that takes you into the world of train-riding street musicians (and single mothers), you will have a good time. And I was impressed by the actors musical skills. If you shy away because of the music style: I myself am not much of a Country music fan, but the music is rather melancholic ballads like (the main song reminded me extremely of) Red Hot Chili Peppers' Road Tripping. I must admit I am a bit prejudiced since I've liked Katherine Heigl a lot from/since Roswell (hated Grey's anatomy, though, silly love stories and mean comments in the face of human tragedies - disgusting) and Ben Barnes from/since Bigga than Ben, but the director is so great, I am sure you will be charmed by the movie even if you are not big fans of the actors. I was glad the romance was kept to a minimum and did not expect the movie to have so much atmosphere. Well-done!
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5/10
Passing By
ferguson-64 July 2015
Greetings again from the darkness. Complexity of characters, action sequences and plot twists are so common in movies these days that a simple story told in a straight-forward manner can catch us a bit off-guard. Such is the case with this latest from writer/director Ami Canaan Mann (Michael Mann's daughter, and known for Texas Killing Fields).

A romantic drama usually leans heavily on the strength of its leads, and the teaming of Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes normally wouldn't instill much hope. Don't expect this one to linger in your thoughts much after you have left the theatre, but most will find it pleasant enough to watch … if for no other reason than the interesting songs written by Nick Hans and sung by Barnes. And yes, Heigl sings a bit too … but not much considering her character supposedly had a successful singing career in years gone by.

There is an air of familiarity to the story as Barnes plays a free-willed musician who travels by train and performs in the streets of the towns he visits. Circumstances occur that bring Barnes and Heigl together, and soon enough romance is in the air. Heigl and her daughter (Emily Alyn Lind) live with her mom (Sheryl Lee), and Barnes hangs around for awhile to fix the roof … and other things. Indie favorite Clea DuVall has a small role that adds a bit of interest, but mostly this one hinges on Barnes and Heigl.

If you are one of the many who have grown tired of Heigl's big screen career, you might be a bit surprised here as she struggles to raise her daughter while going through a nasty divorce. Barnes has also done little (since his posturing in The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian) to lead up to his more gritty and somewhat likable role. Again, not much here will stick, but it's pleasant enough to watch.
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A beautiful bore
Gordon-1131 July 2015
This film tells the story of a struggling homeless musician, and a single mother who used to be a musician. After a chance encounter on the street, they become friends and more, supporting each other through their respective tough times.

I find "Jackie & Ryan" very boring. As a drama, it doesn't work because almost nothing happens in the film. We are shown scenes of beautiful mountain scenery, scenes of moving trains, people playing music or people walking around. Much thought has been put into making scenes nice, such as Ben Barnes writing a letter against the sun then walk away. These scenes may be aesthetically nice, but it's just plain boring. The film drags on too long but there's little plot to fill up the screen time. The romance is unconvincing, and the story is not romantic either so it doesn't work as a romantic comedy. "Jackie & Ryan" is a beautiful bore, I would still rather not have watched it.
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5/10
too slow
wendymug19 May 2017
This movie doesn't have the kind of subject matter that requires such a slow pace. Scenes are too long. If each one was cut shorter, it may have been a little better.

Heigl is a really good actress; usually raises a not movie up a level or two. Her accent comes and goes, which I guess can happen. You move away and lose it, but it returns you come back. But sounds like she has been living there for a while.

Her singing is not good enough. Did she really sing?

And I'm sorry but we can't be expected to believe that a nine-year- old gave birth. Sheryl Lee is much too young to be Heigl's mother.

The way the movie ends is nicely done. You don't see that happen very much...
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5/10
Outline of a Love Story
bob-rutzel-239-52543028 September 2015
Drifter musician Ryan (Ben Barnes) lands in a town to visit an old friend and comes across Jackie (Katherine Heigl) who is also a former musician seeking a divorce and needing to maintain custody of daughter Lia (Emily Alyn Lind). Ryan is ultimately on his way, via the rails, to a recording studio to cut a record with his friend.

Some of the script pages must gotten lost somewhere along the way. All the above sounds good, and we were anticipating a good love story between Ryan and Jackie, but all we got was an outline of a love story with many unresolved issues. We liked the foreplay between these two and the dialogues were excellent and yes, they do get together, but then we really don't know how this all panned out. (you have to make up your own ending). Did Jackie get that divorce? Does she maintain custody of Lia? Does Ryan become an over night musical success? We were looking for a feel-good movie and all we got was an outline of things that may have turned out the way we wanted. Where were those missing script pages? Someone needed to be fired.

Katherine Heigl is still beautiful and is a very good actress and we saw glimpses of all that from the script pages that were not lost. She has that rare ability to make me laugh and cry at almost the same time as does Morgan Fairchild. (you won't let that go, will you?)

Don't really know what Ben Barnes looks like with that beard that all male actors seem to revel in, and he is new to me but his delivery saves him. And he is also a pretty good singer of Bluegrass music - I think that's what that was.

Speaking of music, it was very good throughout and since the story was not as complete as we would have liked, watch this for the music. Ryan's song near the end is excellent. After he recorded it, he was asked by those in the control room if he had any more like that. He says yes, but we don't get to hear any. Boo Hoo!

All in all not a bad incomplete story that just gave us an outline of things that might have been. We were looking for a well developed love story. Didn't happen. You can make up your own ending. (5/10)

Violence: No. Sex: No. Nudity: No. Language: One F-bomb by Jackie.
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3/10
Live your life from moment to moment, blame the system, and everything will miraculously turn out fine.
mariaeleni_pntz12 September 2017
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I can't say that I liked this movie. The philosophy of the creators seemed way too superficial to me: live your life from moment to moment, don't worry about the past only look to the future, and blame "the system" for everything.

The underlying commentary on how poor struggling people are exploited and crushed by the system is recurrent : Ryan's friend "the Cowboy" has just had a baby with Virginia, who he abandons for a couple of days, just to "breathe a little" : he got angry and frustrated after the baby was born because there was not enough money (he felt small and powerless in front of something so much bigger than him, says Virginia, the mother of his child, who justifies his frustration). The song "Down on Penny's Farm" that Ryan and Jackie sing at various occasions (Jackie chooses this particular song to express her frustration about her rich husband threatening to claim full custody of her daughter) is clearly a song about exploitation. And Jackie has to sell all her jewelry and her house in order to fight her very rich husband whose money allow him to do whatever he wants. So the rich do what they want and crush down poor people- that's the theme of the movie. Somehow it's not convincing. Especially when the characters are not people who never had a choice or a chance in life, but independent, strong, talented and were capable to turn their lives any direction they wanted in many occasions in their past.

Apart from blaming the system, the characters do not seem willing to reflect on the consequences of their own choices, and that is presented by the filmmakers as something rather positive. Jackie is tormented by questions about past choices, but Ryan convinces her she should only ask "where do I want to go next and how will I get there". Virginia never asks herself if they should have made sure they had enough money to raise the baby before having it.. There's no need to reflect on the past, or draw lessons from past experiences, because it's all the system's fault....

I really didn't like this irresponsible, adolescent approach to life. Live your life moment to moment and blame others for exploiting and crushing you... I'm not saying that people should punish themselves for their irresponsible past choices, but realizing how you contributed to finding yourself in your present situation can be useful. Plus, reflecting on the past does not exclude working on building the future. You can do both ! But as an adult, you need to realize which choices worked and which didn't.

Because in real life there are no miraculous solutions, as in this film. You don't just open the door to a stranger one day during a stressful divorce and fall madly in love with them, you don't get the super expensive guitar you're dreaming of as a gift from someone who wants nothing back, etc. Apart from defending irresponsibility and anger towards the rich and powerful, what this film also promotes is a belief in miraculous solutions that set everything straight out of the blue. Some sort of "deus ex machina" appears out of nowhere to deliver the characters and not their own wisdom and efforts based on lessons from past experience. If only it were so in real life....
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9/10
My Kind of Movie About Reality Today
successexpress28 July 2015
I've read the other reviews and agree to a point but this is a great movie based on human experiences that we can all relate to. Aren't you all tired of movies about rich people going through different dramas? I know I am. This is a "Down to Earth" reality check for a lot of us struggling to survive in this debt ridden society. Humans will survive this storm of servitude. We will finally come to realize that life is so precious and the people we care about are the only reason why we have a reason to wake up in the morning. This is an example for other movie studios to follow. Relate to your audience or just be another wanna be hit.

Just my thoughts.
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4/10
The story leaves you wondering
stephaniedanyelle12 August 2015
This movie follows two people who live opposite lives, but their love of music brings them together. In the end, you don't know how he ends up. Does he get his record deal? Does she get custody? What happens? I don't like movies that leave things opened ended for you to guess. I like answers. Also, there's not very much acting. There is a lot of music playing, a lot of staring, a lot of long pauses where you are starting at the characters doing nothing for a period of time. With Katherine being a main character, I expected more. This is certainly not one of her top films at all. A lot of "folk" music. All in all, I wouldn't watch it twice.
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8/10
Good acting, great music!
peggysue42219 May 2021
I'm glad this isn't the much overdone, "girl meets boy, boy saves girl", unoriginal scrip, and typical movie.

There were a lot of thoughtful lines and I like a movie that doesn't "overwhelm" with lots of drama. Nice way to spend a lazy, rainy afternoon!
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9/10
A True Reflection of Reality
tinlok-5733211 August 2015
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This is my first time to write a review (This movie makes me do so). Most people find this movie boring and without memorable scenes, but I was impressed by how the movie brings out the bitterness of life. Jackie and Ryan both pursued their music dream (Jackie used to be), but they took totally different paths. Ryan keeps perusing his music dream as a street singer while Jackie chose to get married and gave birth to her lovely daughter. The story is about how they met and how they supported each other during hard times and how their relationship grew. Although there are no special and memorable scenes like other movies do, it told us something important and I was impressed and love this movie so much. No matter what choice you have made, there is no right or wrong and most importantly, life goes on. There is no "what if" in life and we gotta go forward. We only look back when we wanna know how much progresses we made. There are always regrets and darkness in our lifetime, but we still gotta move forward and finally, we see hope.
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9/10
Loved this sweet film on Netflix.
inquiringminds12 June 2017
How sad this sweet little film by Ami Canaan Mann was ignored by the public. It's on Netflix & I finally got to see it & really liked it. Ben & Katie were excellent together & I was pleasantly surprised by Ben's singing. The only thing I didn't like was I felt it was too short & a little more about their back stories could have been in it, plus the ending was too abrupt for my taste. But that's in editing & not the fault of the actors. If you like music & drama, you will really appreciate this film.
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8/10
Personal opinion
driesenbrandon-8194820 August 2015
It is a simple Love drama about a musician who meets a girl whom he falls in love in. Honestly if you're looking for a romantic movie it is adequate. But the reason why I gave it a high score is mainly not because of the love story which is very predictable, but because it is a great movie to inspire musicians. Being one myself I recommend this to guitarist whom are trying to rediscover their passion for guitar.

Their is not much chemistry between Jackie (Katherine Heigl) and Ryan (Ben Barnes) it looks forced in real life luckily its a movie so it makes it plausible, thanks to the good acting of bot Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes.

I recommend watching it mainly for the music not as much for the romance since its a lesser romance movie
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10/10
Beautiful and Moving
cat-writer23 June 2017
No, there weren't any exploding helicopters and no heads of state needed saving, but human beings changed, and helped each other, gave each other the push to find the inner courage to do what made them happy in life. What more do you want? Beautiful scenery, tenderness, love, and incredible music? It's all there. I love this movie. It's gentle and powerful and it touched my heart.
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8/10
Genuine
SaarahN22 May 2016
Love me like you do follows two individuals, Jackie and Ryan, as they deal with the struggles of life. Jackie tends to reflect on her life, her past, what brought her there and the choices she has made, whilst Ryan is all about going forward, where next? Ryan is the good-natured, young, traveller. Jackie is a stuck-at-home single mother. They both share a passion for music, Jackie has lived the dream, it didn't go well. Ryan has yet to pursue his, he's patiently seeking it out.

What happens when their paths cross? Simple, they help each other. They believe and inspire one another: Jackie inspires Ryan to write his own songs, to be an original. Ryan helps Jackie to move on, and to believe in herself. This was another thing I liked, as well as how the characters are able to be independent of one another- there is none of that all too common mourning, clinging behaviour. They are accepting of one another, especially in the case of Jackie- she understands Ryan and his travelling, train hopping habits. She is strong, she can survive without him. This is a powerful message, which Katherine delivered exceptionally.

Do Jackie and Ryan fall in love? That, I'm afraid, is an answer best left to interpretation. I'd like to think they do but, just as easily, they could be passers by in one another's lives, a friendly encounter.

This film is so very endearing, Katherine Heigl has always been a favourite of mine, she's such a great actress, her smile, alone, can win her any part. She was very fitting for this role, and there was definitely on screen chemistry between her character and Ryan. A good pair, but I felt their relationship (on-screen) would be better off platonic. The casting choices were a success, even the child actress (played by Emily Alyn Lind) was far from the usual irritating, annoying, cheerful child. It was real, and I loved it.

The country themed music (my favourite genre) was beautifully reflective. Before watching this film, I had some reservations- in the end, I watched it because of Katherine Heigl (of course!). Initially, I had thought this would be a romantic comedy, I'm not against those at all, but it was still a pleasant surprise to discover this was different. It wasn't very drama filled, nor was it comedic (at all), I'd have to say it was one of those self discovery type of films, it was very similar to Before we go (starring Chris Evans) I wouldn't watch it again, but only because I feel as though the novelty of the film would no longer exist.

Now for what I didn't like: Jackie was portrayed to be sensible in the rest of the film, but she invites a stranger into her home, said home also houses her child and her mother. It was a ridiculous idea, he may have helped her but that doesn't make him any less of a stranger.

Another thing is that Jackie was fighting to maintain parental custody of her child, this is a difficult fight for her but it's not too clear if she succeeds. There is no celebration and it did seem a lost case but...I don't like this being left to interpretation.

Another thing I didn't like was Jackie's prior romantic relationship (with her soon to be ex husband) as there was no explanation for its failure. I suppose I like knowing everything, my curiosity was unsatisfied, that's all.
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