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7/10
Throwing a modern family into the early 20th century, to entertaining and somewhat informative effect
benm-4175122 June 2019
In Further Back in Time for Dinner, a modern British family has their house converted each week to a decade of the early 20th century. They live in the environments, wear the clothes, loosely follow the social arrangements, eat the food, and always give their take on how the decade felt through this changes.

The show is entertaining and does offer some interesting insight. By seeing what got added and removed from the kitchen, and what they would have eaten, I got a new perspective on just how much had developed in the early 20th century - and also on how much the wars halted this development.

What's always disappointing about these shows (there are other covering different eras), though, is that they are a bit inconsistent with how they transport the family back in time. They go all out converting the home, their clothes, and their meals, yet this effort abruptly ends before saying anything about style or manners. It seems a bit pointless to dress them for the era when the hair and makeup are completely wonky. It's odd to focus in on the middle class family vs. working class servant dynamic but to completely omit almost anything else about class, and GENDER!

I guess it's meant to be an entertaining and light-hearted show, but one can't help but be suspicious of the historical accuracy if they think they can pick and choose what to represent. You can't really know what an era, say the 1930's, was like through a few superficial changes.

It's also odd that the mother of the family seems to have no idea how to cook in a show where the central focus is on how food changed through the period. If we are going to spend so much time watching her cook, that should be a key part of the casting.

Altogether it's a short and fun series worth watching, but also a missed opportunity for a genuine look back in time.
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4/10
Irritating beyond belief!..
Adams590518 October 2017
Having missed the first episode (1900-1909) of this series the last time it was shown, I sat down this evening to watch and criticize, and shall amend my previous review as appropriate...

Firstly, I wondered whether the BBC had actually consulted any real social historians (Polly Russell doesn't count, as evinced by her inability to translate Brandon's Edwardian wage into today's money-if the family were living on the equivalent of £20,000 p.a., they would certainly not have counted as middle class-see below) prior to the setup-the family is consistently referred to (not least by themselves) as 'middle-class', with the husband earning £500 p.a. (approx. £40,000 today) 'in business (clerking in the City-incidentally, when I started working in the City, in the late 1980's, I regularly lunched in chophouses, my favourite-and the priciest-being 'Simpsons in the City', now re-named 'Simpsons Tavern', and still going strong on Cornhill-unfortunately, it is no longer a male-only environment))', yet they live in a small semi-detached house, and only employ a maid-of-all-works. They would certainly have been at the bottom end of the spectrum. If Brandon was employed as a banking clerk, or similar, he would not have employed a live-in maid, but a 'daily', and his wife would have done all the cooking (although not the washing up, nor the waiting-at-table), and if they were genuinely middle-class, they would have lived in a larger property, which would have required further staff. At one point in this episode, the family sat down to a midweek five-course meal, including tinned soup, wood-pigeon and mutton... This would simply not have happened in such a household as this...

Glossing over the atrocious accents and (mis)use of language, all five family members (and Debbie, the maid) appeared to be dressed beautifully, and this rather suited the two daughters, who looked most fetching without makeup, but none of the women (apart from Debbie) seem to have the slightest idea what to do with their hair-the mother (Rochelle) always looked like she'd been dragged backwards through a hedge-a lady of this period would never have dreamed of leaving the house in such disarray, nor discussing her misgivings over rationing with her local grocer (he was in 'trade', and consequently of lower social standing).

Father and son (who has the only remotely authentic accent, although his vocabulary was rotten, and he suffers from the modern misconception that 'can' and 'may' are interchangeable... 'Can I-?..', 'Yes, you can, but you may not') both seemed to embrace the experiment fully, and both convey the impression that they were rather enjoying themselves. Not so much interaction from the daughters, but the mother never stopped bleating and complaining-and this was before she lost her maid to the Women's Land Army, and had to take over cooking duties herself-her family would have starved-she had absolutely no idea what she was doing (paper bags catching fire in an oven-Good Lord, what a surprise!) Somebody elsewhere has speculated that this family lived on takeaway food beforehand...

On the whole, the costumes and props are good, Brandon, Fred, Rosalind and Miranda all look fine (in fact Brandon seemed rather taken with wearing a hat), although it's quite obvious the ladies had no idea how to move in long skirts, but again, their mother let them down-far too much makeup, and whatever she wears, she always looks like a bag lady...

I know that this is a lightweight entertainment, but they could have done so much more with it-table manners during the 'Last Hurrah' supper were disgraceful-did no-one think to tell them how to eat soup correctly, and not to talk with their mouths full?.. Rochelle was even incapable of pouring out a cup of tea without making a mess of it-and did nobody think to tell her that you never hold the tea strainer above the teacup, and pour from the pot one-handed?.. Extremely bad manners... These are basics, and the two presenters, Giles Coren (whom I find incredibly irritating-doesn't he ever shave?), and Polly Russell ought both to know better.

They also rather missed the target with the whole Suffragette thing-this was not a petty trifle to discuss over tea, with an amusingly named board game to follow, but rather a serious social movement-as hostess, if Rochelle decided to wear a sash (even if only indoors), she would have had far more opinionated views-remember, neither her husband, nor her son were present...

So to sum up, the only real saving grace in this dog's breakfast, was the maid-of-all works, Debbie, who has now left the project. Better dressed, and better presented than her employer, ineffably cheerful, despite the back-breaking work schedule, and long hours, she simply tackled all tasks presented to her with an infectious enthusiasm... I wish her well in her new post-WWI career, whatever that might be...

All in all, a rather inconsequential programme, which, with better research, and more commitment, could have been so much better...
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5/10
Decent but not quite as good as others like it.
Undutchable193917 September 2017
Warning: Spoilers
In general I was a bit too often too disappointed in the show to truly love it. The family is nice and they enjoy their adventure, we got to meet the amazing Debbie, and there was plenty to see that was interesting and amusing, but it wasn't really a proper full time living history reality show. They only did a few experiences now and then and of course there was a lot of attention for the cooking and eating, but besides that they had modern bedrooms and they were allowed to go home 3 days between each era. This makes it a bit unfair to compare this show to shows like 'The 1900 house', 'The 1940s house' etc, but you can't help doing that anyway. It felt like they were doing things in this show that we had already seen in other shows and because those shows had more time, more budget and involved people actually living the experience 24/7, they generally did it better. If you can't do something similar just as good or better than it has already been done before, don't do it, try something else.

I was also surprised and disappointed at the strange contraptions the cooking was done on. None of the cooking ranges were authentic. Which to me defeated the purpose of the show. The actual daily life bit was a neglected, but the cooking and the food was the star of the show, the main subject. So I think they should have put extra attention on getting that right. And I can tell you from experience that cooking on a retro looking modern range isn't the same as using an original. Via Twitter I learned that this was done because of health and safety. Something that surprises me as there are several historically themed shows and movies that were made at the same time where original stoves were used. I find it difficult to believe that a show these days could not get permission to use at least an 1940s range. If need be, these could even be made safe to use again or a newly build exact replica could be ordered that follow all the new guidelines. Although of course that would take a bite out of the budget.

The costumes & hair and the way the house was decorated were a bit of a hit and miss, the costume and art department didn't always get it right and that is a shame. Most viewers won't notice it but making the atmosphere as historically correct as possible often makes such a big difference, even if you don't know about the mistakes.

The lighting was also not very good but this is a common ailment. Most historical shows have way too bright light everywhere because of course the production crew wants to be sure you see everything. But it is not needed. The show would have looked a lot better with more atmospheric and realistic light.

So in short, a decent and entertaining show but there were too many missed opportunities and room for improvement.
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