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7/10
Blown away
PIXGIRL27 August 2007
Obviously, EVERYTHING should be taken loosely, especially when it comes to events as sensitive as 9/11 -- but I am shocked at how many people are choosing to not even question one ounce of what happened that particular day. It's exactly why America is in the state it's in -- no one wants to "rock the boat" or see another point of view, even if it means effecting an event that forever rocked our security as a nation.

I am further shocked that the people who are so quick to disregard even an ounce of this information haven't even bothered to research "the lies" even a little. If even 1/3 of what is said in the movie is true, isn't that enough to further investigate?
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8/10
Worth an open minded view
jcook560502 July 2007
Video and film allow vast numbers of our citizenry to gather around our intentions while discovering the best or worst of our nation. The possibility of conspiracy on 9/11 is one of those ideas that will continue to incite more and more discussion as time goes by. So much of the 9/11 Truth movement makes total and logical sense. Many of those ideas are certainly in error. But, many are not. As with any disputed historical event, there will be those who deny any truth to a new theory, especially one as foreboding as this one, and those who will believe in conspiracy, no matter the evidence to the contrary. For those who watch "Loose Change" with an open mind," I suggest going to: www.911scholarsfortruth.org for a detailed and evolving discussion of the alternate possibilities. Videos such as "Loose Change" cannot cover the entire subject, nor will it ultimately force the government to conduct a totally unbiased and complete investigation (most of the evidence at ground zero has been destroyed anyway). As usual, only time and sincere scholarly legwork may eventually reveal to us to what really happened that day. For now, however, those of us who find grave gaps in the official investigation must continue to question the intent of a government that desperately needed a "Pearl Harbor" level excuse to once again invade the Middle East. Whether this disturbing video contains truth or not, it should be considered amid all the other explanations by anyone who seeks a personal truth amid the mountains of data now available on the internet. To question the official version of this event IS a patriotic act. To allow your government the luxury of unquestioning loyalty is to allow those in power the luxury of corruption. This was not the intent of our founders.
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7/10
I think people deserve to hear a second opinion...
mauricio5and6 September 2006
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And I don't mean about the movie. I mean about what happened on 9 -11- 01. I didn't have to be the brightest person on earth to note that the towers felt unexpectedly fast and soon, too perfect. To note that there were none airplanes remains on the ground where the tragedy occurred, both at the pentagon and Flight 93 crash site. This guys are trying to compiled all these questions many of us have, researching on dark and fuzzy ground and trying to make some sense out of it. They are not making everything up. They have people, testimonies, graphic material... and I can't say thats the true, but I can say that neither is what the media, controlled by the government has been feeding us from that day. So, I say give it a chance, see it. Then you decide what to believe.
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9/10
Don't Criticize it... Question it
jafar_nazir30 November 2009
I know what people are thinking, another documentary based on conspiracy theories, but just for one minute ask yourselves, why are there so many of these films (documentaries) barking up the same tree?, maybe, just maybe there's some fact in what is being told. Also remember most if not all of these films are made by Americans not by outsiders and as a result of the attacks on the Twin Towers 100,000 Iraqis' have perished, and now in Britain the US and majority of the world the war is being called illegal but we cry for the 179 soldiers (UK) that have died out there fighting for their country but not for one minute do we realise the chaos and death we have caused.

Watch it with an open mind and question it but if you have already come to a conclusion that this film is a farce then avoid it and God help you.
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10/10
It is not about right and wrong
shammuk20 February 2008
The point here is not about if the this film proved anything or if there really is a conspiracy. I think what the filmmakers were trying to say is that why all the concealed evidence? If the gov't has got nothing to hide then why can't we see all the evidence that we the American public has a right to. So, I have to say it is very respectable of them to dedicate this film in memory of those perished in 9-11 because, the victims out of everyone has the right to know what really happened and to be honest the gov't haven't shown us everything.

I can't say everything in this film made sense but at least, some of it is very convincing. This film has raised a lot of good questions. The American public has a right to know every answer to every question that this film has raised. Like why the small explosions in the Twin Towers after the planes have hit? I'd say that is pretty suspicious. Also, where are the bodies of the passengers for the other two planes? Why can't we hear the evidence from the black boxes on the planes? I'm not saying there is any conspiracy here but I think we have a right to know.

For those of you who's seen Farenhite 911. I'd say these two films could be linked together. If you knew what the Bush family has invested in the middle east then you know that is a big enough motivation for them to kill anyone in this world. That's why the old Bush went to war in the middle east and then the young Bush went to war in the middle east. No other president in US history has gone to war in the middle east. Why? Use your brains people. Where does all of Bush's money come from? Not from US tax payers thats for sure. Their money comes from the Saudi Royal Family who just happens to be good friends with Bin Laden. Where does Dick Cheaney's money come from? His money comes from his company that invests in communications of the troops in the middle east and home. Every time there's a war his stocks go up. People kill for money. It's plain and simple. We see it everyday in the news around us. For those of you that don't believe someone in our gov't with power won't kill for money. Then I'd say you need get out of your fairytale world and wake up. If you can make a billion dollars and you need to kill 3000 people in order to do it and you had the power to cover it up and no one would ever find out it's you until your dead would you do it? I'd say a lot of people would. Those of you that say you wouldn't because you never had that kind of power. Power is corruption. Wake up people.

Last but not least for those of you who is dissing this film I bet you don't know anyone that has died because of 9-11 and you don't have a son fighting in Iraq. Because if you do you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this film. You would use your mind and heart and question if all this is worth my loved ones to die for. Is this all worth something? Just ask yourself that question.
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9/10
Don't automatically dismiss movies like this as crazy conspiracy rubbish
mbdinger13 September 2006
It seems to me people are too quick to dismiss a movie like Loose Change as crazy conspiracy rubbish. Opinions contrary to widely held perceptions are always met with resistance. In this case, to accept what Loose Change suggests is to acknowledge that your government doesn't serve the people after all, but only its own secret agenda, and that voters are just a necessary inconvenience in some sort of twisted Orwellian world we never knew we were part of, that need to manipulated to bring them around to accept the rhetoric of the day. Crazy? In all honesty this is similar to most religions that also require blind obedience. For whatever reason there are many who think their leaders deserve their unquestioning, unwavering faith and trust, to accept everything and anything that is thrust upon them as necessary and true. The path of least resistance is always the easiest and most secure, but, alas, not always right.

That said, the fact is that much of what Loose Change describes probably is crazy conspiracy rubbish. What it offers is merely an alternative explanation that fits the facts - something that the "official account" doesn't seem to do all that well. Even if 99% of the material in Loose Change is utter garbage, what about that remaining 1%? Doesn't that deserve your attention? Alternatively, if you feel 99% of the official account is true, what about that last 1% that just doesn't fit the data? Like all theories (including scientific ones), Loose Change will undoubtedly need to be tweaked or even completely overhauled to fit any new or contradictory information as it comes to light. Why is that such a problem? Does the official account offer that sort of flexibility?

Who knows what really happened on 9/11, but it seems fairly clear that certain parties besides the hijackers knew what was going down.
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Loose Change = Loose Screws
crbin3 August 2006
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This "documentary" is more interested in sentiments than fact. Sure, we all are suspicious of the government, and nobody likes Bush and Big Oil Companies, but to infer that 9/11 was an inside job--i.e. perpetrated by our government--is not only a ludicrous notion wrought with faulty logic, but a paranoid stab with more drama than substance.

Avery and crew connect the dots by asking open-ended rhetorical question followed by pregnant pauses in the hopes that the viewer infers the answer. Never is any inferred fact followed up beyond simply stating it.

For example, the claim is made that most of the 19 9/11 hijackers are still alive. Rather than follow up with sources for this error (these are people who merely happen to have the same name as the hijackers), Avery is happy to suggest the the US Government would murder 3000 of its own, put the economy in dangerous peril, and ruin thousands more lives.

And why does the "Evil Government" do this? Well, according to Loose Change, Gold and Power.

What's the proof? Umm....well, here's a catchy drum track.

This "documentary" (so right, they had to make it twice), is a puff piece that laughs in the face of one of the worst tragedies in US History and then has the gall to dedicate it to the people who died.

To learn more about these chuckle-heads, please watch "9/11 Deniers Speak" to hear them mock the dead in their own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFNBpjZCI4 - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4 - Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8srm5Lk4hM - Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-HmcVtiX-s - Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MZwxJRYI - Part 5
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6/10
US government not willing to kill its own people?
mathiaswce7 November 2006
I agree with several of the critics here that some of the allegations in this movie are preposterous. However, many of the people that has given the film such bad reviews seems to be the same danish guy over and over again. I cannot be a coincidence that several guys with danish sounding usernames have commented on the same movies in quite a number of incarnations.

The claim made by most critics is that the US government has high morals enough not to kill any of its own citizens. Even though many thousands US soldiers died in WW2, 58 000 US troops died in Vietnam, a number of US troops are still dying in Afghanistan and Iraq as we speak.

These are people, human beings, US citizens that dies because of decisions made by the US government. Inevitable you might say, but nothing is inevitable. Ever.

There are endless records where governments deceive their own population in order to mass support behind a war. It has been true in Nazi-Germany, in the U.K., in France during WW2, in Rwanda, Congo, Burma/Myanmar...

Check out Operation Northwoods and make up your own mind. It's on Wikipedia. Check out Operation Ajax, the CIA assisted coup in Chile 1973, the Iran-Contras deal, Nurse Nayirah in Gulf War I, the genocide that didn't take place in former Yugoslavia.

All which directly or indirectly have taken American lives. Do not think that you are spared.

As far as the movie goes, it is poorly referenced, some of the truths told are complete nonsense or exaggerations, but there are still things that DO NOT ADD UP in the official story.

I hope that you will watch this movie and make up your own mind. We learn from history that we have not learned from history. Sometimes the ignorance must stop, even in the greatest democracy of them all, selfrighteous pads on the back or not.
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9/10
Very well done Documentary (No matter what you believe)
madferret9631 July 2008
This is a well done and entertaining film/documentary.

Whether you believe every single word said on it, or you don't at all. You wont get bored, since this a very interesting presentation of another point of view of the events of 9/11. Maybe some very specific facts can be wrong, but that doesn't means this movie is not worth watching. I would recommend this film, since you can watch it for free from different sources through the internet.

I am amazed by number of Reviews rating this movie with 1, that I actually consider the possibility of people being paid to rate it that way. Eg. Look How most of the negative reviews are twice or three times longer than the positive ones...
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7/10
A well delivered controversy.
explodedviews6 September 2006
I have read with interest, the majority of comments with regard to this documentary, and am not astonished to see that many are affected (adversely or otherwise) by the work of what I can only speculate to be a talented film director in the making.

Respectfully and contextually (this is IMDb not Tiananmen Square...), the subject matter is of secondary importance to me. This yarn has good guys, bad guys and a narrative - the basis of all good theatre.

What's eminently apparent from watching 'Loose Change 2E' is that the goal of building a coherent message (however 'alternative') is achieved with just enough professionalism so as to render it instantly plausible. This plausibility is perhaps not altogether factually credible, but it doesn't need to be - it serves to fuel our natural penchant for inquisition, seeking flaws and continuity errors and offering us the status-laden opportunity to claim bragging rights with our peers as a result.

The narrator asks for answers to well considered questions with effective use of sarcasm, but my main criticism is that it sadly falls into the trap of open subjectivism when giving direct opinion later on. This wasn't necessary as the implication was already palpable and the message already well developed. However, the effective delivery of narration coupled with a well considered backing track combine to make this a very watchable and interesting production.

In terms of the actual content, I ask only what the consequences would be if the events of 9/11 were independently and formally investigated and this line of argument proved to be actually true?? What if they are right??
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1/10
Incredibly dishonest
shrinker1 August 2006
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Give thanks to the internet. After bringing forth Nigerian money scams, phishing scams, identity theft, email viruses, spyware and stupid urban legends, now it thrusts upon us yet another abomination we have to warn all our friends and relatives about. Loose Change, and it's various 'editions'.

First things first. Do not believe a word this video says. Sources include anti-semitic 'news' organisations, wacky mad-scientists and alternative-science 'entrepreneurs'. (But of course they don't tell you this.) When it does cite legitimate news providers, the stories are almost always from the immediate aftermath of the attacks - a confusing time when even the media organisations themselves admit they made a terrible mess of the reporting.

If you're not careful you'll get suckered in by its logical trickery. A military document about 'Operation Northwoods', a sinister plan to stage a fake terrorist attack on US citizens, supposedly proves the government is willing to attack its own people. Yet, read the fine print: in Operation Northwoods nobody was to be killed, or even hurt; civilians weren't involved at all. And more importantly the idea never even went into planning because the government wasn't prepared to carry it out! So what does this prove again? Beware the cheap tricks to make you think the Osama Bin Laden confession video is fake. Think carefully about the astounding claims that someone stole $200 billion in gold and silver from under the World Trade Center (try calculating how much that weighs!). Ask yourself if its really possible all the phonecalls from the hijacked planes were faked. Could somebody impersonate your wife/husband without you realising? There's example after example, of dishonesty, trickery and stupidity. Take a look around the internet for the Loose Change Viewers Guide. Although a little sarcastic it lists literally hundreds of distortions, quotes out of contexts and logical blunders, and it gives the real facts behind some of the conveniently truncated quotes.

Worst of all though, despite pleas to the contrary Loose Change is an insult to the memories of those who died, those who mourn them, and those who struggled to save lives. Without daring to point the finger directly Loose Change's innuendo implicitly accuses thousands of citizens of complicity in murder. The crimes proposed simply couldn't have been committed without the assistance or subsequent lies of local government employees, clean-up workers, medical staff, coroners, the NYPD, the FDNY, hundreds of other agencies and private companies and most importantly the victims and their bereaved relatives.

It's an appalling, egotistical, nasty piece of work.
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10/10
Don't be a sheep! Don't believe everything you are told, watch this & make your own mind up!
imdb-2187221 October 2009
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People that disagree with this film use words like 'lies' and phrases like 'conspiracy theorists' to describe it. One even claims that this film disrespects the victims of 911! On the contrary, I believe it's those that go with the status quo and believe everything they hear in the news and everything their politicians tell them is the gospel truth, that disrespect the memory of the dead! I am not saying that this film has it all right. More questions are asked than answered, but on the whole, I believe the point of this film is to get you thinking and talking with an open mind. It asks a lot of the viewer. It's almost uncomfortable to watch because most of the points covered leave you with a reasonable doubt with regards to the official version of the events of 911. There is more to the story of 911 than we have been told, this film should leave you wanting to learn more about the truth, as long as you have an open mind and are not averse to having your preconceived ideas challenged!
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7/10
A disturbing idea
dodo10664 December 2006
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This film has provoked such discussion amongst all of you, just read the comments, that i'm quite impressed. Those of you who blame it on conspiracy theory, are being single minded. I do not believe that the film is totally correct; actually, a lot of it is probably wrong. But only a small bit of correct evidence is not good enough. They have no conclusive evidence, but this helps their case to some extent. If the video tapes from the nearby buildings were just released straight away, then there would be no controversy, as they could have blown the Pentagon attack as a missile out of the water. But it wasn't. Isn't that just slightly strange? If the FDR was uncovered and released to the press, then it would blow their theory out of the water. But it wasn't found. How does a building, which nowadays are constructed so very carefully, free fall due to a fire in the upper segments. I'm not a great physicist, but there's something wrong here. Buildings just don't free fall, seriously. These are some of the more interesting discussion points, and i feel that they really ought to be discussed. One final fact that they have right, is that the Bush government did benefit from the attack. In favour of the sceptics, bombs could have been planted by terrorists, (I do think bombs were planted and went off, buildings don't free fall) and we all know at the moment that a bomb is one of the terrorists greatest weapons.

I was disappointed that they took an opinion at the end, as one of the pros of the film was that it just gave evidence, perhaps slightly biased, and no accusations. I liked the film, because it obviously took a long time to put together, and there is an element of mystery. Except the soundtrack, which was corny and unnecessary.
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1/10
Do your homework, Dylan
RimDur17 August 2006
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I can only say that this movie is the result of horrendous research. Even though Dylan, Jason and Korey claim that they have spent 3 years researching 9/11, they still got a lot of facts wrong:

1. AA Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon is a Boing 757 (they got that right) - but it does not have a Pratt&Whitney as claimed in Loose Change - it has a Rolls Royce engine.

2. The voice morphing technology they claim the government uses for faking the phone calls is not ready for LIVE conversations. The technology is only able to morph recorded voices. It's evident that the conversations that the passengers had with their loved ones were live conversations.

3. Most of the calls were carried out on air-phones and not cell phones

4. The movie claims that $167 billion in gold was stolen from the basement beneath WTC 7. This is more than 50% of the gold in the entire world at that point. Do you have any idea of the logistics that would be needed to transport that amount of gold?

5. It claims that Osama Bin Laden is not wearing rings where in fact numerous photos show Bin Laden wearing rings.

And there is probably a lot more. But that's not all - the "documentary" uses every trick in the book called "how to manipulate the viewer":

1. They leave out the thousands of facts that speak against the conspiracy

2. They leave out the many expert reports that support the official 9/11 report

3. They take quotes from witness testimonies out of context

4. They leave out testimonies from thousands of witnesses that don't support the claims made in Loose Change

5. They make a lot of assumptions and conjecture that fit their purpose

6. They never substantiate their claims. They just throw their claims at you as if they were facts.

The worst part of the "documentary" is the "fake phone calls" part. It really, really aggravates me to hear them mocking the victims of 9/11 - and then they have the audacity to dedicate the movie to them afterward. That pisses me off a great deal.
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10/10
Don't knock what you haven't watched.
DazeBlazin29 May 2007
The government's official version of 19 hijackers with boxcutters is totally unacceptable. No investigative expert can simply dismiss the blatant exclusion of critical evidence throughout the "9/11 Commission Report". These important omissions are listed in an intensely well-researched report titled - "The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie", by Dr. David Ray Griffin. It's available online for anyone to read through. The 9/11 commission report doesn't even mention WTC 7. Hello? Was the mysterious collapse of that building not a part of the investigation? Also, how about the fact that 6 of the hijackers have been found alive. These kids may be wrong about some of their conclusions on what actually happened, but that doesn't make the government's official version of events any more credible. At least these guys are still asking the questions that have been left unanswered. We need a new investigation NOW!
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10/10
Loose truth (dvd)
leplatypus28 March 2011
This documentary is perplexing: unlike books that can expose any views without offering no better proof than words, here, the message is often based upon footages. I know that a frame can be manipulated but the one used are actually from live TV network. And the results are shocking: all the four attacks of 9/11 have problems.

Pentagone: where is the plane? Why no single capture of the crash? Why this plane can pass through 3 rings of wall whereas the NY planes got stuck inside the WTC?

Flight93: where is the plane? No fire, no bodies?

WTC: you see clearly that windows flash down while the towers collapse, especially the north tower? How a building collapse can melt basement?

The thesis supported is frightening because it's not that government let terrorists act but it's rather the government as the terrorist and the mastermind behind the attacks.

All those questions must be answered to honor the memory of all innocent people who died on this day. Actually, we still got not decisive answers.
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9/10
The conspiracy starts with the commentators...
stephane_decker15 October 2008
...as MOST of the very very unjustified and critical reviews about Loose Change SE are from people who only wrote ONE comment on IMDb; to tell us that this movie is rubbish because it's facts are wrong.

Yeah, right.

I liked this movie because someone has to dare to produce such stuff. It is highly entertaining as well. And it will make us rethink about what we behold as true. Which is very important because most people are eating what the American Media is giving them to eat: Bu**Sh**

And no matter what the truth is, it is not the official report and that is a fact for sakes. We are the people and the government needs its people like it needs the government. But it is the people to be supposed to have the power, not the government. Go to some courses of constitutional law, you might learn something about the philosophical background of a State, its territory and its population.
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7/10
think critically
lbbumout4 September 2006
OK first of all for most of the US citizens who are willfully ignorant about how the country is run these days (which is mostly everybody), watch the documentary "why we fight" (2006). This will open your eyes to a lot of irrefutable knowledge and evidence about how we are being sold out as a country by greedy corporate neo-con bastards. After you take all that in, watch loose change, and maybe "terrorstorm" by Alex Jones. Loose Change is a pretty good sophomore effort from 22 year Dylan Avery. There's a lot of good info there, but at the same time there is are a few questionable supposed "facts" that they skew. However, over all, i enjoyed the film to say the least. It had a good soundtrack and was fairly well pieced together (without the help of a professional studio which is amazing). watch it before you talk sh*t, that is all i ask.
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10/10
Facts are facts. 9-11 was an inside job. Period.
box-office1 February 2007
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"Loose Change" is a thought-provoking little documentary that draws attention to and questions the "official" story of what really happened on 9/11. It takes a couple of free-thinking college kids to put together such a video, since the media gets paid to divert our attention from real facts with inane terrorist warnings, "muscle" hijacker tales, bogus pancake theories and other heroic schlock. The events which unfolded on 9/11 were indeed, well-coordinated, well thought-out, planned years in advance and executed with (just enough to fool the average dummy) military precision, by not by Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, that's for sure. Complete with knife-toting hijackers, pulverized airplanes, collapsing skyscrapers and brave firemen, Hitchcock couldn't have crafted a better script. You've seen Wag the Dog, haven't you?

See, there are actually people who believe in a 'New World Order' in which the USA is the omnipotent world power. All the Neo-cons do their part to contribute. The Bushes have at least eight years (Clinton's run) to plan their 'New Pearl Harbor' event, of which the first and biggest hurdle is getting their boy into office. With the election fixed, the Patsie in place, the biggest hurdle is overcome. Of course this time Cheney and Rummy have to pull ALL the strings cause, unlike his daddy, Dubya has the IQ of a hockey puck. Once he's elected, they waste no time in carrying out 9/11, "The Big Wedding."

Neo-clan member Giuliani makes his pal Silverstein an offer he can't refuse - sacrifice two asbestos-riddled, low rent behemoths in exchange for millions in insurance money, and a bonus to be determined later (when Rudy becomes President?) A Bush cousin just happens to be in charge of security for the entire WTC complex, offering uninhibited access (you WILL want to read more about this.) Quite the coincidence! Schedule war games to confuse NORAD, have agents at the ready to confiscate evidence immediately following the attacks, cart away the thousands of pounds of steel as quickly as possible from ground zero and ship it overseas before it can be examined, publish photos of all 19 hijackers within days of the event, reinforcing hatred of the 'enemy' before it's even determined who the culprits are. It's genius, really, until Silverstein slips and admits they "pulled" WTC #7 on purpose. Whoops! And I doubt if one of those neo-Nazis realized that using so much Thermate would leave molten steel burning in pools at the foundations of the buildings for weeks. What fire ever gets hotter AFTER millions of gallons of water are poured on it? D'oh!

A 757 crashed in an open field. There were no dead bodies found, no luggage, no seats, no wire harnesses, no wing sections, no tail sections, no nothing. Photographers weren't allowed near the shallow pit. (See realistic plane crash debris in "War of the Worlds.") There were no Arabic names on the passenger lists of any of those planes. How were they identified so quickly if they all died and their names were not on the manifests? Hmmm.

Subsequently, we have been put in fear of our lives by Osama Bin Laden and other "terrorists" from "The Axis of Evil" who hate our freedom and may strike again at any time. Yeah, right. The anthrax scare that immediately followed 9/11 was just one more trumped up plan to scare the population even further and intimidate law makers into voting for a policy the republicans needed to push their NWO. There were no mysterious middle eastern men mailing anthrax to democrats! Turns out, the anthrax came from a US government lab.

Just look at each detail and you will find that it was absolutely planned by the government, with no other logical explanation. It's not surprising that so many of you think "Loose Change" is bull. The government banks on the fact that most people are simpletons who believe everything they read in the paper and take whatever the president spews in his press conferences as gospel truth. Hah! Really, the one and only Conspiracy Theory here is the one published by the 9/11 Commission. I think Barbara Honegger said it best, "Only a military aircraft would have given off the 'friendly' signal needed to disable the Pentagon's anti-aircraft missile batteries as it approached the building. Only the military, not al Qaeda, had the ability to break all of its Standard Operating Procedures to paralyze its own emergency response system" on 9/11.
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The Power of the Mythical Manipulator
tedg15 August 2006
So let me get this straight. Bin Laden wasn't responsible for 9-11 and the tapes where he claims so were faked? He was a patsy as were the 19 hijackers who are alive and well running convenience stores somewhere? The planes that crashed didn't, were drones instead, the real planes and passengers having been whisked off somewhere. The taped calls from the planes were faked.

The disguised substitutions were because we could better blow up the Pentagon. Oh no, that's not right because despite using special drones which could carry explosives, other explosives were carefully set in the twin towers.

And the proof of that is... that the structural collapse of the buildings when structure was removed by melting (in the most studied structural collapse in history) looks a lot like like the structural collapse of buildings where structure was removed by tiny explosive charges.

And this master plan was carried out by an administration that otherwise cannot competently make a ham sandwich? And it is being kept secret in an administration that is the leakiest in history with even long-standing patriots in the NSA rebelling against the president? And the whole thing was done to make money on a stock market which lost a trillion dollars in the days after the attacks? I recommend you see this. I do. Its because it helps illustrate the sheer lunacy of belief. When people want to believe something, no fact, no confrontation with logic or reality will deter that belief, rationalizations and explanations growing to immense complexity. Blind spots enlarge to nearly the entire field of vision.

Its an absolutely amazing phenomenon and it makes you wonder what beliefs you hold yourself that have some conspiratorial agency. This silly, offensive thing really did make me wonder if there is someone somewhere who knows me to be as stupid in some of my assumptions as I think these guys are.

The funny thing is that administrations do lie. And they do cover up. And they do get caught. But when they get caught it is because the truth is so obvious and the motive so clear any other explanation just wouldn't make much sense. Johnson lied about Tonkin in order to intervene in Vietnam, for instance. The Air Force lied about UFOs to cover up a secret cold war balloon project.

Why do people insist on grand conspiracies? I suppose it is a deep need for order in the world. If something happens, someone must have caused it. If there is an event, it must be part of some powerful plan we can only dimly see. If you prefer not to believe in a God that is actively pulling the strings, then the next best thing is a secret cabal of all-powerful humans (or alternatively aliens) that is centralized, whole and incredibly omniscient.

And where do these ideas come from? Well, increasingly these days they are coming from movies, which spin tales of noir manipulators, gods on earth. So in a way, this horror movie is simply one of a group that we absorb to help us cope with what we feel we must believe.

Terrifying.

Ted's Evaluation -- 2 of 3: Has some interesting elements.
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7/10
if nothing else, watchable treatment of very suspicious event
krikken21 October 2006
Well, hard not to be drowned out by all the government shills on this site, but I thought that despite the college-kid voice-over and overearnest presentation, the content was thought-provoking. Something was dirty about 9/11 in the same way that the 1934 Reichstag fire was. There's plenty of events we DO agree as a society on--that is to say, not every tragedy has a conspiracy theory attached to it. But 9/11 does, and for very many good reasons. If these filmmakers used sophistry and made factual errors, well, it doesn't come close to the government's record on the issue. Rubberneckers and the kinds of people who like to go to controlled demolitions will find it worth it just for the video footage of the buildings coming down.
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5/10
suggested viewing method: do your own research
von_ozbourne2 December 2006
a buddy and i recently sat down on a slow Sunday at work at watched this movie online. i'd say in all it took about four to four and a half hours to complete. this was also followed by the "loose change vs popular mechanics" videos. (the funny part about that was that as magazine editors, the popular mechanics reps were no more "experts" than the loose change guys). now the reason it took so long to view this movie was due to the constant stopping to get more information about the various points mentioned.

this may not be the preferred viewing method, but i suggest anyone else viewing this movie do the same. actually some other interviews of the loose change producers suggest you look into the events more closely for yourself and not just take their word on it anyway.

i say this for both the people that think this movie is "proving the real truth" or "a bunch of bull****! cause my government would never do anything wrong ever!".

while this movie might be viewed as amateur sensationalist conspiracy buff fodder, it also mentions a lot of questions that really haven't had any really satisfactory answers. (at least not for anyone that understands that any government, no matter which country you live in, will occasionally put it's own interests ahead of it's people's.) history is full of examples (watergate, jfk's murder, prohibition, Vietnam, enron, etc.) where people in power either misuse that power, mislead information, or just generally do things that are influenced by their own basic greed.

what this movie seems very effective in doing though is getting people talking. unfortunately the minority of people who actually do the research with an open mind are flanked by a much larger number of "debunkers" and "believers" who only concentrate on the information that backs up their predispositions. this is similar to the "Fahrenheit/Fahrenhype 9/11" movies that present the information in a way to support their cause. (although Moore's version was far more entertaining, and Peterson's rebuttal was more petty) basically this movie should be looked at as a perspective. one that would allow you to dismiss it once all the questions have been answered. whether they area right or not in some of their assumptions is irrelevant when you consider that if the entire event was cut and dry, then people wouldn't feel the need to fill in the blanks with their own ideas.

and for the people that are likely going to get mad at this perspective, you should probably realize that "patriotism" denotes positive and supportive attitudes to one's nation-state. we'd be a lot closer to Orwell's vision of the world if we truly believed that questioning the belief that we should blindly following a government despite questionable/corrupt motives, was the same as an act of treason and being unpatriotic. where i come from we have a proverb: love my country, fear my government. my country never let me down. i can't say the same about the people that run it.
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10/10
incredible
albouquerque282117 August 2006
I've just heard about it. it is not a state of the art make up DVD. all you will find are wise questions with sound proofs, challenging storming of your mind. if you compare the limits of money with that of an ordinary Hollywood flick, it is a work of art it has another effect tough. if you don't want to get shaken by the realities of what your in, don't watch. This is completely the pill offered by the Morpheus. you choose: live in lies or hear the truth and bear the consequences. I was amazed the integrity of the events and mind drifting trough this movie and strongly suggest every young American who has enough wit and gut to believe.
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6/10
Can This Film "Change" Your Mind?
Guardia24 March 2008
This documentary takes a look back at the attacks on September 11, 2001. It takes a skeptical attitude towards the official story of the events, and goes about presenting arguments and evidence to dispute the idea that terrorism was the culprit.

Using various media (film, transcripts, stills), the film presents a disturbing case in which the U.S. government is heavily implicated in the execution of the these attacks. We are taken through each argument the film makes through the use of narration.

The film seems to make use of already publicised information, but the researchers seem to have taken their own further investigations (including new interviews) since the events. The results that they have achieved are highly confronting, and just as controversial.

To further it's premise, this documentary makes a few leaps of faith. I don't want to outline any here, but this film and the makers themselves, were never bound to have any credibility - the issue is too sensitive. And, as likely as the film-makers might make it seem that there was some sort of conspiracy, it's hard to imagine that anything other than animosity was due for them. It's almost a futile exercise, not matter how compelling the film itself may be, it's always going to be secondary to the film-maker's intents and character.

I doubt that many will be swayed too far from their initial beliefs after viewing this film, but nevertheless, it is a fairly provocative, interesting and occasionally professional look at those attacks in 2001.
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1/10
Lies, lies and more lies.
gusand1 August 2006
Warning: Spoilers
This movie made me very very angry, and not because of what it implies. But because so many people are actually swallowing this hogwash hook line and sinker. How can anyone possibly believe this crap when i would take you 15 minutes and an internet connection to find out that more or less every single claim is simply not true.

The people behind this mess simply don't have a clue. They seem to have made no actual research of their own. They have just put together a number of other peoples "research" without even the slightest attempt to even check if the facts are correct. If they had, they would have known that Flight 77 had Rolls Royce engines and the wreckage shown in the film DOES match the engines of Flight 77. Or maybe they do know and are just lying about it.

And this is certainly not the only time the film makes false claims about evidence presented on screen. They also fail to mention that not a single structural engineer supports the idea that there were bombs in the buildings.

Other things such as the gold under the WTC and the faked phonecalls are just ridiculous and makes me wonder what they were smoking while making this film.

And as usual with these stupid conspiracy theories, they fail to present any coherent theory of what really happened, they simply line up a number of lies and imagined anomalies in the official version and claim that this is evidence the government did it.

But I wont go into detail about all the errors and lies in this film, other websites that have done that already. The stupid message aside, even the technical aspects are not that impressive, the graphics are pretty ugly, the music dull and even the speaker voice gets pretty annoying after a while.
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