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7/10
Good film for an afternoon's watching
laduqesa18 May 2021
That doesn't mean that the film is not thought provoking. The first thing to say is that the oppression, the forced marriages, the disapproval of homosexuality, the patriarchy are nothing to do with religion but are cultural. Not once is reference made to god or religion to justify the actions and attitudes in the film, rather to culture, family and community. It would be wrong to see this film as a diatribe, more a commentary on the conformity engendered by a homogenous culture.

I have lived one of the themes of the film vicariously. A younger work colleague whose parents just suspected that he was gay was tricked into going to Pakistan and marrying a cousin from his parents' village. It's an appalling situation and one that pertains in many cultures and societies all over the world. This is partly why I found the film so relevant and thought provoking.

Beyto was brought up in Switzerland where such mores are an irrelevance yet he was still indoctrinated with them. He's careful, but not careful enough and gets caught out which leads to the tragic events of the film and the awful outcomes for so many people. The family had hoped to keep the "shame" under wraps but it blows up in their faces. Fortunately he has friends of Turkish descent who were born in the West who can help him out.

I am being deliberately vague as I don't want to have spoilers here. I have to say though that the ending is idealised too far for my taste which is why I have given a seven.

The film in general has an authenticity that I liked, especially the scenes shot in Turkey. I live in a Muslim country, albeit an Arab one, but so many of the customs and beliefs are the same or similar. I have friends who have had to deal with these issues so it's very close to home for me.

I can't say that this is a profound film, it's more an entertaining and moving story showing very real situations that many unfortunate people have to submit to everywhere. The leading men, Mike and Beyto, were attractive lads and Seher, the wife, had a personality.

There are quite a few films in the germanosphere exploring relationships between Westerners and guys of Turkish descent. This is one of the nicest of them.
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8/10
Has flaws but worth watching
a_santos-7309917 June 2021
The film centres around a culture crash, between living in Turkey (west) and Switzerland (east), in regard to homosexuality, forced marriage, and cultural peer pressure/oppression.

The script has some flaws, and isn't deep, but is enjoyable and still relevant and thought-provoking.

The scenes are pleasantly shot and transmit some authenticity, specially the scenes in Turkey.

The main actors are attractive, although there was some lack of skill amongst the cast, which left me concerned earlier, but it did improve. Although only a few characters get some development/growth, we do get to see their background, which can lead to some understanding on their views.

One of the parts I enjoyed the most was also the soundtrack, as the music is good, without crashing into pop stereotypes, and is very well applied to the scenes, amplifying the culture differences.
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6/10
Well-meaning and forward-looking.... but not entirely convincing
onefineday365 June 2021
There have been quite a few LGBT themed films regarding characters of Turkish root (from the cult classic 'Lola and the Billy the Kid' to more recent 'Wo willst du hin, Habibi'). So the basic drama is nothing new at all. The difference here is how the characters stuck in the situation make compromises and find a way to look for a better future. Another positive note is none of the characters - Beyto's parents who forces their son to an arranged marriage, Beyto's bride, his boy friend and Beyto himself - are either demonized or victimized.

But this positive note is ultimately unconvincing, not only because it's bit unrealistic but more so because the delivery is weak. The acting, script and editing are all bit rough around the edge and loose that it feels more like a TV drama than a feature film, where things has to be kept much tighter given the limited run-time. It is most obvious with the ending. Just a scene ago, everybody was a tortured soul and the gap between them still much to wide, and then we're suddenly thrown with all smile, all sunny and blue water last scene, where everything suddenly looks positive. I can't dismiss the feeling something's missing inbetween, and frankly there were quite a few moments I felt that way through out the film.

It's a good effort, worth a watch and I'm looking forward to more of such positive looking films in the future... but I hope it could be more in a polished presentation.
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6/10
needed a little more time in the oven
sjswiggity23 November 2021
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I have my qualms with this film and want to share them, but I can see the passion that went into it and I have good things to say as well.

The portrayal of Turkish culture felt very rich and authentic. It seemed to come from a place of great love and sadness. My family is from the area, and I could smile at all the little things I recognised from my own life. I'm glad that Turkey was treated with respect, because I feel like it's easy to vilify the restrictive culture in these kinds of stories.

Now for the downsides, I felt the pacing wasn't very good. This film is only an hour and a half. It definitely should've been at least two hours.

In the beginning, everything happened really quickly, and I felt like I didn't have time to react or process it. It took a bit to feel like I knew the characters, and so I was confused. I think the prioritising could've been better about what was important information to establish, and what didn't need to be mentioned. For example, the money issues of the family didn't really come into play, and Beyto's job and studies were kind of afterthoughts. I think Seher should've been introduced at the start of the film too, because we don't know anything about her until after the wedding, and her character arc had to be crammed in at the end.

The falling-in-love story also needed more time. It was like snap-snap-snap, they meet, they feel attraction, now they're together. I wasn't quite sure when it turned from a fling to a committed relationship.

Maybe the film could've started out during a family trip to Turkey. Then, you could show the family's beliefs/values, the friendship between Beyto and Seher, establish Beyto as a perfect son, and maybe have the family badger him about getting married, then hinting that Beyto is gay by his reaction. Then, after returning home, introduce his secret boyfriend. I think he could've already been dating Mike, since him falling in love onscreen doesn't add much to the plot. He doesn't struggle to accept his feelings before acting on them, or have any start-of-dating struggles. For the sake of clarity and time, the plot needed to be cut down.

I also think the way his parents found out just felt too convenient. If it was a slow thing, where they have suspicions and start investigating/questioning while Beyto struggles to cover the relationship up, it would've added more tension. As is, it feels like no sooner do they start dating than Beyto is outed.

The pacing issue affects the topic the film is trying to explore. A clash between cultural and romantic identity is something that's very very complex and nuanced, and I feel like that nuance didn't show itself in the film. The stakes of the complication could've been established better, and made to feel more dire, and the characters could've been given more complexity. It felt like there was a lot of telling instead of showing, as almost all of the stakes were just explained to us by a character, so they didn't feel very real.

To keep talking about the characters, I'm a bit on the fence. As I said, I think they lack complexity. Beyto seemed too selfish at times, like when he almost ran away from Seher even knowing it'd ruin her life. She's his best friend, but he hardly showed her any empathy for a situation she's a victim of too. There needed to be compassion and love between them for the ending to feel like a happy one. I think the parents realising the consequences of their choice could've had WAY more exploration, and we should've seen how they felt about their son moving away. And finally, I couldn't like Mike. I wanted to. I tried. But he spent so much of the film being angry and not even hearing Beyto out, and acting like he should just throw away his whole family and life over such a new relationship. That, plus his violence, made him seem like an abusive partner. I didn't really want Beyto to be with him because it could easily become (or, probably, already is) a toxic relationship. I think Seher said it well when she told him he should learn about Turkey.

To end this review, I agree with the other person that said the acting was not very good. It's harder to tell through the language barrier, but the emotional scenes could be flat (blank faces while their voice is angry/sad) and there was a lot of sudden shouting swear words which was hard to take seriously. I think the performances felt a bit unmotivated.
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6/10
Mixed
yanghenry4130 October 2021
The segment in Turkey is really strong and I wished the whole movie was just this story. But the main character is very whiney and insufferable, and his Swiss boyfriend is so poorly drawn that he comes off as an unintentional misogynist when things get complicated. Without giving anything away, I was also not a fan of the implausible ending. There are a lot of promising elements in this, but they sadly don't add up for a number of reasons.
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9/10
Well made film, great cultural insight
stephenlonge13 June 2021
The first scenes had me worried about clichés of gay film, but 20 min in the plot becomes more about cultural differences.

And then the plot had me so enthralled and the story was so suspenseful I couldn't stop watching. Great film, worth a watch!
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6/10
A Turkish love story from Switzerland
justahunch-7054922 June 2023
A swimmer (Beyto) falls in love with his coach (Mike) and vice versa, but we are in foreign lands. First Switzerland where they meet, swim and love and then Turkey where Beyto is forced to return to as this is where he is from, where his family lives and where he is compelled to marry a woman and where what he is, gay, is an abomination. He does all he can to get out of it, but fails and ultimately marries a charming, beautiful and an eventual open-minded woman who has been a long time friend. There is much drama, anguish and arguing, but it's well written and the acting by everyone is just about perfect. In a way, it's kind of a Turkish rom-com by the time it ends though it has some very serious things on its mind throughout.
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9/10
Beautiful movie about a hell-hole of a country and a primitive sub-culture
paul3141515 January 2022
Well, if rural Turkey is really like this movie depicts it (and I see no reason why they would exaggerate), then to hell with it. And with those backwards primitive so-called traditions that they have. Really, to the bloody hell with that whole country.

This movie is well done. All actors are good. Especially the Turkish actors playing the parents are very believable and they manage to convey beautifully the stupidity of real ones. The main actors are also good and there is a refreshing simplicity in their portrayal of gay lovers.

The ending is quite happy and comforting, which is something I really salute, given the amount of gay-themed movies with terrible endings.
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5/10
Toxic love interest makes it uncomfortable.
riangrey27 September 2021
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Beyto is a really important and hard film. It's a story we don't see too often - yes we've seen unaccepting parents again and again, but we haven't seen the kind of forceful nature that still exists in a LOT of cultures like here in Beyto. It separates it from lots of recent queer cinema, and the split between views in Sweden versus views in Turkey are very apparent. I felt like I was really seeing into Beyto's family as a whole while watching.

As for positives, it's nice to see a piece that doesn't shy away from how homosexuality is shunned differently in Turkey. There's a family dynamic there that's hostile and heavy, with Beyto's parents caring about how they're seen first, and how they feel second. It's hard to watch the film descend further into a forced marriage, pulling his childhood best friend into the mix when Beyto, the lead himself, is so against living how his parents insist.

But I think the film falls short when outside of family exploration. There's a little too much focus on the relationship between Mike and Beyto, which feel forced and toxic. Mike is an atrocious person with little care for someone he supposedly loves. Beyto is in the midst of being threatened by his own parents and having his old friend dragged into drama, and Mike is berating him with texts despite knowing Beyto's area in Turkey has poor reception. Mike also fails to understand why Beyto can't up and out himself and proud about his sexuality. I'm not sure if there was an intention to call out privilege that Mike has, but it gets lost with the amount of aggression he shows. He's borderline violent and very moody, and it doesn't sit well that someone as soft and emotional as Beyto is risking family for that treatment.

When the film finished, I was left with a bad taste in my mouth. A lot of the marketing was bait-y: shirtless Beyto and Mike. But the film had the chance to be a lot deeper than that. It certainly educated me on some Turkish culture, but I still felt they could've spent less time establishing Beyto & Mike, and more time fleshing out drama within the family due to Beyto's "interests."
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10/10
Individual Freedom and the Community
jromanbaker11 May 2021
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This fine film is an eye opener for those in countries that regard respect and freedom normal towards homosexuality, and for them to understand that in many countries it is the opposite. Burat Ates plays a Turkish young man who falls in love with a farmer's son, played superbly by Dmitri Stapfer. Beyto ( Ates ) is an accomplished swimmer and Mike ( Stapfer ) is his trainer. It is love at first sight, and despite their desire to live together problems arise when Beyto is literally forced into marriage. But the woman he marries played finely by Ecem Ayden has a resolution to Beyto's unhappy situation, and here I will end any spoilers. So why is this such an eye opener ? It extended my knowledge of the world outside the liberal bubble I have had the privilege to live in for one thing, and also to understand more the pain it is to break away from the oppression that so many people in this world endure. The scenes set in Turkey are tenderly and beautifully conveyed, and the film also helped to try to understand the mindset of the oppressor and the terrible trap that has been set not only for his future wife, but for Beyto's conflicted responsibilities towards her. My one regret is that these scenes divorced me from Mike and that I saw less of his very moving performance. An excellent film that everyone should see and think hard about afterwards. A justifiable 10.
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patchwork
Kirpianuscus3 November 2021
A sort of patchwork. Two young men, very different, mates , in love. Two different cultures. A wedding. And the challenges front to the young men. A nice film, first for the effort to convince but remaining a work made with patches , each patch being more interesting alone, more than as part of a film who looks for demonstrate too much. One of nice virtues - the work of Ecem Aydin as Seher. Maybe, the end , to But, sure, a love/ coming out film careful crafted than defines Beyto as decent one.
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3/10
Everything not in sync except for the Turkish get together
randomguyimdb12 January 2022
For me the only good part was the exploration of the Turkish culture filmed during the wedding ceremony.

Good part about portrayal of Beyto is that he did his best to avoid his very unpromising wedding plan secretly organized by his homophobic and intolerant parents and he made this clear to his wife in the very first moment he got an opportunity to discuss about it openly. Yes, rightly said by some other fellow reviewers that there are certain instances when his behavior can also be judged as being quite selfish.

The main turn off in this film is the complete lack of chemistry between the two male couple Beyto and Mike. Not for a single moment Mike's character portrayed any sort of love and feelings for his boyfriend who has a very different background and stuck in some really difficult family circumstances. He is so rude, un-adjusting, and unwilling to understand and resolve issues that disrupts the very idea that there were once something in between them and that they really had a plan for an ongoing and meaningful relationship.
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8/10
Turkish gay hottie finds a backbone...
ohlabtechguy5 October 2021
In this flick, we see a clash of cultures...conservative Islamic versus Western liberal. Beyto, a manly, muscly gay, young Turk living in Switzerland is forced to conform to Islamic family values. He gets married, but not without a strong resistance. Mike, his German boyfriend isn't very understanding and acts irrationally, cruelly and inappropriately towards Beyto after he returns, with wife in tow, to Switzerland. At that point, the audience loses any interest in Mike and wishes Beyto would find a worthy boyfriend. We are handed an unconventional ending, whereby everyone seems to be satisfied.....but for how long?

Good acting and script, but found weakness in Mike' character.
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10/10
3 in a marriage?
chong_an6 December 2021
Beyto is the only son of Turkish immigrants to Switzerland. He works in an office, helps out at his family's restaurant, and takes English lessons. But his main joy is training for competitive swimming. When his trainer Mike comes out to Beyto as gay, Beyto falls in love with Mike. However, when his aunts see them at a Pride "demonstration", his parents bundle him back to their home village, to a prearranged wedding to his childhood sweetheart Seher. In turn, Seher wants to be an independent professional, not the traditional bride / housewife / daughter-in-law.

Beyond the gay angle, this is a very good story of immigrants, cultural ties and conflicts, with a Beyto torn between his own interests and desires, and acceding to parental wishes (at least their desire not to be humiliated). At one point, Seher is the one calling out Mike for not being more familiar with Turkish culture and mores.
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2/10
Don't waste time with this
booby7013 June 2021
Bad acting and worst screenplay ever! Not worth watching.
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9/10
Beyto Knows WHO he is!
mkragh13 October 2021
It was interesting to read some of the reviews here. Many found this tale interesting and then, of course, some did not. I agree that the plot of it has been approached in other films, but the one aspect that made it special for me was the fact that Beyto never disavows who he is. He knows exactly what he wants and regardless of the situation, he remains steadfast in his quest. Whether or not he deserves the other guy, isn't the issue. The heart knows what the heart wants and Beyto never loses that focus, even when all the odds seem to be against him. That is what I found fresh about this story and for that fact alone, I enjoyed watching the outcome. Nice production and some moving scenes! Enjoy.
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2/10
Same O, Same O
dmoorejdrf17 September 2021
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OMG.....how many times can this story be told? Are there any gay writers out there that aren't brain dead? We get it already...closeted gay boy falls for out gay boy. Out gay boy shames closeted gay boy for not coming out and acknowledging who he is. They have conflicts because of it. Closeted gay boy always has a girlfriend that mom and dad love. As expected girlfriends heart is broken, mom and dad disown (but only for bit, by end of movie they see the light). Closeted gay boys macho friends turn on him, but all is well because now he and out gay boy can live happily ever after. That is the formula for at least 50% of the gay movies available. May be different actors, different nationalities but the story is always the same. Can't writers just tell a good story without telling the same story over and over again? They are really not doing the LBGTQ community any favors.
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10/10
the ending omg
antonibudiman23 January 2022
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First of all, sorry for my bad english. This movie has a good story i cried when watching this. The happy ending makes me cried omg this movie so beautiful. 10/10 that's it.
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9/10
Very good movie, dealing with a very hard subject
belhuepress30 May 2022
I really enjoyed this movie-the main character's actions are extremely believable, having grown up in a very repressed environment in the American South, pre-Stonewall, when most gay men were expected either to commit suicide or "convert." Times have changed, but not for the Turkish community in Switzerland who come from rural Turkey, in an extremely homophobic culture where carryinig on the family name asnd mores is mandatory.

One of the great roles in the movie is Beyto's mother, who is warm, caring, but essentially clueless. In effect she tries to control her son through the typical emotional blackmail that conservative parents use, but she also shields Beyto from his father who goes into violent rages over Beyto's gay feelings. In some situations, these parents and their friends would have resorted to "honor killings" to preserve family pride. That Beyto will resist his parents, especially his pig-headed father, shows how much Western culture and gay liberation, which has a role in the film through a Gay Pride parade in Berne, has affected the world.

I did not find the ending at all "tacked on," but it shows the development of the lead characters-and how far they will go for personal happiness, and a chance that most people in their own world will not give them. This is a really good film, and I hope others will discover it.
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1/10
Nothing new
MrDeWinter24 September 2021
Old story: 2nd generation closeted gay Muslim immigrant meets native openly gay Swiss. Unfortunately the acting is rather bad, almost hilarious to watch. Feels like an public announcement piece by the ministry of education.
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10/10
Fully shown medieval thinking of many cultures and its destroying effect on young people
tomjerry-5732222 January 2023
I gave 10 points only because this movie made me even more disgusted with everything "traditional" and "conservative". I am sorry from the bottom of my heart that there are young people in the world who are forced to submit to these dark traditions that are destroying their lives. Of course, it's nice that the ending was not very unhappy. Such parents don't deserve any respect or love. It had to be shown and it would be made this movie much better. The best ending would be to see that both parents die alone in retirement home without love from their children. Still cannot accept that such medieval thinking takes place in ourdays.
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4/10
Almost good
qui_j26 February 2024
This is the usual gay love story between a Turk from a traditional family in which homosexuality is "haraam"and a Swiss national who is out and cannot understand why the whole traditional background stuff is such a big deal in Switzerland. This conflict as a theme has been done to death, especially the forced arranged marriage to a cousin so that the villagers at home won't have to know about the "shame" . What makes the movie difficult to understand is the lack of continuity in the storytelling. There appears to be gaps in the timeline that just aren't explained by use of dialog, and so the viewer has to work really hard to understand that certain periods of time have passed between the scenes. That's the only way the narrative makes sense. It has a nice happy ending so there are no loose ends.
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5/10
Beyto (2020)
pscheck23 October 2023
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My reviews are not too concerned about production esthetics, as most reviews are! Mine concern is the narrative! Does it convey truths or untruths? Having said that, my take on Beyto was right on! The script showed how a stifling, traditional culture can override an individual's right to choose his own path in life! It showed how his mother ws denied this path, when she was forced to marry Beyto's father! But her acceptance did result in actually loving him! (one for 'their side!') When Beyto gave in to marry his boyhood girlfriend, I kept my fingers crossed, that he would stand strong and not give in to this overbearing culture!

Ironically, it seemed (forgot her name)his bride was also a free spirit, and only married Beyto to satisfy her father wishes! But both were in a Delima, if they acted on their true feelings , they faced ostracizing by the village (their parents) and if they stayed, they would forever have to live a lie!

I didn't! Why? We had two people caught up in a Whirlpool of conflicts, and both trying their best not to hurt the other! And both realizing they had to see the other's point of view!

I also agree that Beyto's Swiss lover (Steve?) was a bad choice, he appears self centered, paranoid and jealous! If there is a sequel, to this movie, I'll bet he won't be in it! (Ha!)
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