User Reviews

One of these things is not like the other.

Don't get me wrong. I _like_ Vincent Kartheiser. I like his Jonathan Crane. He just doesn't come across as Titan nemesis material. He doesn't even seem to be in the same show. More like he came out of 'Gotham', although he's more interesting than the Scarecrow we got on there. But even then... we get a lot of Crane dealing with his insecurities. Who cares? We didn't get this with Trigon. Or even Deathstroke.

My review title refers to this. The Titans have handled Trigon (okay, Rachel handled him) and Deathstroke. And even the Nuclear Family back in season 1. But they keep getting defeated by Crane's wiliness. Crane?!? Oh, come on.

Granted, Crane has Red Hood backing him up and/or acting as his proxy. But the production staff can't seem to keep their eye on that ball, either. Jason sometimes is having second thoughts about the whole villainous thing. But then he's playing the Big Bad to the hilt in scenes like when he taunts Dick over the latter's failed attempts to hack the Batcave via Wayne Enterprises.

That also means Red Hood and Crane are tougher than Deathstroke. And... Wintergreen? It's still not coming across as very believable.

Part of it is that the Titans still can't seem to get their acts together. It's still mostly Dick. We get a little bit of Starfire, although I have no idea what's going on. Why did Kory see baby Maya in her visions, when she's never met Maya until well after the visions started. What's the significance of Maya being in Kory's visions?

Speaking of plot holes, whatever happened to Lady Vic? As I recall, Crane brought her in as a replacement for Red Hood. And she had a grudge against Dick and Barbara for killing her ally/lover. I guess Crane and Jason have worked out their issues. But how would Lady Vic take that? Wouldn't she stay in Gotham, both to get back at Crane for not letting her be the savior of Gotham, and to fulfill her revenge on Barbara & Dick?

But back to the Titans. Rachel and Gar are off looking for the Pit, and find it just as Dick dies. So the cavern the Pit is in shakes and Rachel senses it's because of Dick. Why? I guess the Pit is as focused on Dick as the production staff appears to be.

Conner continues to remain criminally underused. This is a guy who is at least half as powerful Superman, and Conner has done... nothing. He should be able to take out Crane and Red Hood in a heartbeat, but instead Dick acts like... a dick, and hits Conner (and Krypto!) with a Kryptonite mickey.

That's what Crane and Red Hood don't make impressive bad guys. The only reason they seem to be getting as far as they have is because the Titans are focusing on everything except them. Kory is dealing with her background, Conner is doing nothing, Dawn is off dealing with Hank's death, and Gar & Rachel are looking for the Pit which has nothing to do with their problems. Is finding the Pit going to stop Crane? Or Red Hood? Or bring Gotham back from the edge it's on? Apparently not. Rather than deal with a alive-and-well Red Hood taking over Gotham, they're checking his backstory to see how he was brought back to life.

Speaking of Red Hood taking over Gotham, I'm still having trouble with the whole idea of the citizens believing anything Red Hood or Crane say. Crane is the freakin' Scarecrow, for Pete's sake! A villain who has repeatedly terrorized Gotham tells citizens that the well-known and respected heroes dumped _his_ hallucinogen into the water. And they believe him. Not to mention if the crime lords Red Hood tried to cut a deal with had any sense, at least one of them would have made a video of him dealing with them, and try to blackmail him with it. They didn't. Convenient.

Instead we get a lot of Crane dealing with his insecurities. Who cares?

Oh, and we get Donna. Who now has leadership abilities that we've never seen before. Way to inform an ability, production staff. Lycurgo is okay as Tim Drake, but do we really need a non-powered detective on the team? Granted, how much focus has been on Dick and not the super-powered members of the team, the new Robin will primarily be a main focus of the show when he finally joins.

Overall, "The Call" (what's the significance of the title?) is slightly better than the first eight episodes, because it has Donna and Rachel in it and tries to do something with Kory. And it's not any worse. It just does more of the same: unbelievable bad guys who only wins through writing fiat, a team that isn't a team, and a big focus on Dick, Bats, and bats (which are still following Gar around, for who knows why?) which doesn't seem at all warranted.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. What do you think?

Always a "but"!

But not enough to save the season. Season 3 started off amazingly strong and then... lost it after Hawk was killed. The eps that followed were indeed a "soft middle" that meandered and ultimately resulted in a netherworld where Hawk is still alive and, like Donna and Tim, could come back to "life" one day cheapening the devastation of his death.

Now the final eps try to ramp up things and it just simply is too late. No season three appears to be planned and so this may well be it. The writers and creators know this and are looking fort a way to close this series up. "Seen it before - happens all the time" as the old song goes.

I mean, the incidents of the plot are consistent with the story, are people intentionally not seeing it or what?

The City is against the Titans because Crane showed them that video tape of Starfire blowing up the water pumping thing. The whole point of creating Red Hood was to provide people false hope. People attacked Dick Grayson because they were high on City Water. Is it really that hard to see?

These Marvel Fanboys are just intoxicating the DC Titans Fandom. The 'plotholes' that they've cited have clearly been answered in the series, which makes it clear that they're just writing reviews without even watching them. Titans has improved a lot compared to Season 2, there's still more room for improvement, but this Season really deserves more appreciation.

A much better paced episode then last week's episode. Less fight scenes but an intense episode throughout. I can confidently say that episode 12 is just going to be lit just by that ending. It was so good so see Rachel and Gar back together.

Awesome episode everything was good from the Cinematography to Donna and Tim to Rachel and Gar to Kory except the Scarecrow parts and Dick's idiotic move.

So you knockout superboy and the dog, who could put an end to all of it in a second, to go play the hero and you get shot? And since when is a normal human faster than a bullet? I mean duck and weave to dodge a bullet? Really?

And don't get me started on the Tim and his parents reunion. Your son got shot ends up in a hospital in a coma and almost died and the only thing you can say when he pops up at your door "Tiiiimmm?" and then you just have to say "I feel different" and everything is fine. Then you go to the basement to show your whole setup and your parents didn't notice anything? They thought 'they were storing rice down there'. So you never needed the rice or something? Then they get more worked up about him having the equipment than having their son back who, you know, casually walks into your house after he almost died...and btw you never went to visit him in the hospital?

All in all. After the first season I was interested but like all the other DC series it goes downhill from there. The writing and acting just gets so annoying.

I mean ae went through a wide array of emotions and feelings. The bravado of just walking into Bruce Wayne's mansion unannounced! Then the Joy of wandering such a majestic kitchen. Then the surprise as crane walks in on him, realizing that he maybe not be worthy to walk this fine mansion! But then the tip! Oh the surprise of that tip... goody goody 15%. Then the slight audible of being clocked in the back of the head with a meet tenderizer!

Just the right touch of levity, horror and moustache.

Bravo! Well done. Can we have a spinoff serious? Prequel about the pizza guy and all his Gotham adventures? Perhaps we could call: Pizzaman of Gotham - 30 minutes or it's free. Maybe we could se a cameo in the next suicide squad. Though he may pair well with a TMNT movie be a good cross over. Michaelangelo and Pizzaman could do some side missions, special deliveries. Hollywood make it happen! This is what the people want.

Pros - Cinematography, Donna and Tim's side story

Cons - 1. Dick's dick move. 2. Bad fight choreography. 3. Big plot holes (like Donna found Bruce in 2 mins but couldn't get to her teammates) 4. Scarecrow ott acting and becoming less Scarecrow and more Joker-ish. 5. Starfire's revelation.

Pls replace the writers of the show. They are doing injustice to all characters.

Boy, did the show fall off the rails yet again. I laughed at that whole scene on Tamaran, it was sooo bad I wouldn't even pay the actors for their "performance".

Why would Nightwing reject help from Conner???? It makes zero sense, why would you reject help from a guy that can end the fight in two seconds? Not that making sense is something this show concerns itself with.

Why does Crane have a panic attack and is incapable of tearing that guy's eye when he killed a guy as Jonathan Crane some episodes ago? Again, NOTHING here makes sense. And of course the cops are just killing people for Crane because why the hell not if we're not going to make an ounce of sense. And what was the point of Kapelwa and Maya, who cares about any of that?

Red Hood is just terrible with guns. Seriously, he was MUCH, MUCH BETTER as Robin without guns. And since when is Dick against guns? Dude was a cop, cops use guns and he has used guns as Dick Grayson all along. At least Jason FINALLY realized he's been on the wrong side all along, even though he reacted as dumb as he did when Tim got shot, as in run away instead of helping Nightwing.

Stephanie Coggins is a terrible writer and Titans is a mess. If they haven't managed to get it right for three seasons now, they never will.

Ok let's start with the fact that Crane can't kill someone this episode despite killing two people on screen in episode 7 and nearly killing Tim in episode 8. But now he's too much of a coward to torture and kill.

Ok.

Lady Vic hasn't shown up since episode 6, not that I necessarily care because she was a terrible character anyway but please try to have any continuity.

The Tim Drake story was incredibly contrived, like his parents NEVER FOUND the secret base in their stores basement because he was "storing rice."

Ok.

Jason continues to be an incredibly stupid and easily manipulated character with absolutely no agency of his own, and the people of Gotham are somehow more easily manipulated and stupid because they follow the words of two LITERALLY CRIMINALS AND MURDERS because they just said it was all the titans fault.

Ok.

I'm not even going to go in to the Dick Grayson crap because honestly I don't want to spend any more of my day on this show, just know Dick used kryptonite on Superboy and should be dead because he got shot/beaten up at the end of the episode.

Starfires storyline was the only palatable part of this episode. No idea how the titans writers got to this point after a solid 5 ep intro. I don't feel anything while watching this show, it's so senseless and stupid. I swear, the only reason this show doesn't get that much criticism is because it's on HBO Max and not the CW, and even then it's barely getting mediocre reviews. I don't know what to say about this show anymore, it's had 3 seasons, 2 soft reboots and 0 successes. Best I can say is scrap it completely or sell it off to the CW. I'm convinced the only reason Stargirl isn't horrible is because (luckily) CW got their hands on it before the DCU writers could destroy that show like they did titans.

The storylines do not make sense, the main villain is still not revealed, and Jason is doing some kind of nonsense. If the writers wanted to show the battle between the Red Hood and Nightwing, why are they fighting one-on-one? After all, you can collect the whole city? Why Starfire goes to some kind of shops, it looks very cheap. Conner has no budget at all - he is either put in a chair instead of a programmer, or they say "sit and wait." Gar all season does nothing but go after someone without revealing his abilities. And a lot of script nonsense. Has the show become so uninteresting to its authors that they show something like Desperate Housewives, but only in Gotham?

Titans was never great, but each show was enjoyable in its own right. S3 started the dive earlier, but the tiresome death train trope was unintentionally hilarious. The dialogue continues to be low level. This week, almost nothing makes sense; to the point where I don't really care how this silly season ends. Pennyworth and Doom Patrol are vastly superior in my humble opinion.

Select strikeouts from this week; 1. Tim's parent's ignorance of a 500 sq ft technology and sleuthing hub explained away by thinking it was rice storage. No way.

2. Starfire is totally recognizable right?

3. The kryptonite dust is a lazy device that could have been excused if there was a good explanation as to why Dick couldn't use Connor's help. None is given. Ego? Lame.

3. Nightwing clearly has a plan going against Red Hood near episode end. Then he takes the fight to a public spot where he knows that people want him dead. Then the plan is to...checks notes...dodge bullets? So unbelievably dumb. So against character.

There's more (and several more from the season) but I have better things to do with my day. :)