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10/10
***SPOILER*** Read Carefully!
romanslawomir9 April 2024
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For those that give lower ratings that this episode should receive - I had to re-watch the ending three times to understand the brilliance of it, after initial watch I thought "What the hell was that?", only the second/third time made me understand what really happened.

*SPOILER* Towards the end Hiromatsu knew that there was a plan in motion (which had not yet been revealed) he did what he had to ensure everyone believes and acts accordingly. For majority of the episode I thought Toranaga gave up (can't stress enough how brilliant the acting in this series is) and the story will divert into a mutiny and something else, only to be persuaded back on track at the end.

This is probably the best show made in the last 10 years. And yes, that included Game of Thrones. It's not about action, it's about the political landscape, which is depicted to perfection.
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10/10
This is Farewell.
rxckne10 April 2024
Every Shogun episode raises the stakes higher and higher and there were zero moments waisted in this episode. The anticipation to find out what was to come felt like it was forever, but also sudden considering how much happened. So much weight was put into these scenes whether it was scheming, pleading, or a development between characters that left a broken bond, or rather a bond that had been broken over time. Certain goals seemed far out of reach after time went by, which lead characters down paths I did not expect. Blackthorne's next journey is going to be very interesting to watch, but that final sequence with Toranaga and Mariko was a great way to set up the final episodes and the story to come. I'm really glad Shogun puts more of an emphasis on building tension rather than weightless action sequences that could be flashy, but rather subpar without the lead up to them that add more meaning to the story. The slow chess game I think is what has made this show brilliant up until this point, and I'm confident that if or when the chaos ensues that it will be the perfect storm.
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10/10
What. An. Episode. Wow. Just wow.
ngkos9 April 2024
This episode's level of intrigue and subtlety about what's going on and what's going to happen is just off the charts.

Each and every one of the actors and actresses needed to give a 10 out of 10 performance to make the storyline believable to the audience and boy, they delivered all right.

This is the first time in a loooong time that I mumble phrases like "What have you done?", "Oh my god", "Ah Jesus...." when I am watching a television series or movie.

It is unbelievable television and I am actually sad that it has only 2 more episodes left.

Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks, can we get a second season, please?

Pretty please?

Oh, and to reviewer "osloj", after 8 episodes, you still do not understand why each character did what he/she did and also, Japanese culture in general?

Really... ?

I urge you to read "episode recap" articles for this Shogun episode and maybe, re-read your own review after that.

Hopefully, you would then realize how embarrassing your review really is.
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10/10
The Abyss if Life
xxrederrorxx9 April 2024
This series is already a masterpiece before it even ended.

Every single character was developed thouroughly and given enough time for the viewer to truly understand their actions.

Never been this immersed in a Japanese story before.

I'd give most episodes around 8.5 to 9 stars, but this one has to be a 10. I even made this account just to be able to say that.

Is Shogun Worth Watching?

Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to watch "Shogun" rests with the individual viewer. Those seeking a thought-provoking historical drama with complex characters may find themselves captivated by the series.

However, viewers who prioritize clear narrative structure and consistent characters might be frustrated by "The Abyss of Life" and similar episodes.
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10/10
Eightfold Fences in Episode 8: Which Come Down and Which Stay Strong?
svelterogue-765379 April 2024
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It was when a tear slid down Mariko's cheek that I felt the urge to cry and I wondered why. The theme in this episode centres around the notion of Loyalty in the face of grief against the backdrop of looming civil war: what value do life and death have in the larger scheme of things aka a united, peace-time Japan?

History notwithstanding, this episode was breath-taking not only for its excellent production value which has come to define this amazing TV series, but for its excellent editing and storytelling.

The attention to detail continues to awe: we are witness to the sombre, poignant funeral of the reckless Nagakado who is missed by his elders and buddy, Omi, whose prognostications may have catalysed his friend's untimely demise. Yabushige injects just the right amount of humour in a scene of much levity, describing this death as lower then boiling (hello, Blackthorne) and higher than being eaten by dogs. We witness the heartachingly tender and meticulous manner by which Buntaro prepares tea for his wife, Mariko, in a tea ritual she praises for its beauty.

The timing of the episode's beats are meticulously crafted as well. The episode is heavy; rain falls all throughout, which accentuates the seeming nothingness and wilderness of Edo that Gin gazes upon, barefoot on the marshlands, as she weeps over the exciting future of the courtesan quarter she will be build. Where others see only desperation and loss, Gin (and Toranaga) always see opportunity and hope.

The tense last scene where Toranaga's vassals make known their displeasure with his surrender, and in that infinitesimal moment during the intense staredown between Toranaga and his best friend, Hiromatsu, tthere is the briefest flicker in Toranaga's eyes that seemingly prompts Hiromatsu to lay bare his chest to prepare for sepukku. While it is cruel to have his son, Buntaro, perform as his second, the moment is fraught with the pain of performing such a duty of the highest honour. Who better to take off the head of the great general than another great general whose precision elevates the ritual to its highest peak?

While I knew (and every viewer, probably) that there was something else that lay beneath, I could not escape the sadness and found myself crying in the sepukku scene; it was unbearable to watch and yet it made complete sense to FINALLY show what it is like with not just any character, but with someone we have grown to love, and whose importance to Toranaga and the realm cannot be discounted.

This was a great episode like all the seven before; the last two promise to burst everybody's chests open emotionally for sure.
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10/10
The Abyss of Life - Great Episode
alinsacota-9664310 April 2024
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I'll only say this ... Hiromatsu, seeing that another general has raised his hand in protest to the "surrender", rapidly intervenes and willingly sacrifices himself to make the "story" more credible. He doesn't want any of the other generals to take the fall and end their lives since he knows their skills and tactics might be more useful in the end than his own. And besides, he's Toranaga's best advisor and friend, the one who has watched over Toranaga since he was a child, so that will surely matter in the grand plan of schemes and it will make the "story" much more authentic in the eyes of Toranaga's enemies. Don't try to view it and understand it through our westerners eyes, this is feudal Japan, with a very different moral compass and values.
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10/10
Incredible Episode
unkommon10 April 2024
While it has felt like the entire season to this point has been the proverbial "calm before the storm", "The Abyss of Life" truly was the silent calamity before the storm of storms we'll see in the final two episodes. But what a beautiful, tragic, heart wrenching silence it was.

The entire series up to this point has been pretty stellar - well acted, well written, and poignant as all hell - but this episode embodies exceptionally what it is about Shogun that makes it so... exceptional. Shogun, on its face, is a show about power, which it is, but more subtly is a show about power over - power over others, power over oneself, power over life and death, power over one's fate; or, really, powerlessness over all of the above. In the context of the story, there are machinations larger and more powerful than any one person, even Toranaga (as Hiramatsu showed), that would make even the most powerfully resolute fold like a towel. In the context of the metaphysical introspection that Shogun ponders, we are all powerless over something and, whatever it is and however it may manifest for us individually, accepting our place is the only rational approach. But as much as this series broaches our powerlessness, it also broaches how powerful we can be when fate bears us down like a ten-ton anchor. Toranaga, for all his scheming and apparent willingness to wade into the overwhelming current of fate, might be the most powerfully defiant of the fate laid out for him.

But this show is much more than a meta commentary on the designs of concepts residing in the furthest reaches of human philosophy, it is a visual masterpiece that often uses hushed and drab tones to underscore the dire and damned situation our main cast finds themselves. Subtly framed shots that capture the (emotional and spiritual) distance between those depicted are a wonderful touch of the masterful cinematography that ties together beautifully this masterwork of television. Every element is perfectly crafted and laid out to build the environment and tension and intrigue that elevate this work to the very highest echelons of the canon of television and cinema altogether. This episode is a marked moment for how powerful television can be and solidifies Shogun, for me, as one of the greatest shows of all time. I cannot wait to finish this incredible visual story. 9.5/10.
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10/10
Japanese art of leadership
skw019 April 2024
This movie is mind blowing, every episode can bring you deeper in to the line of this movie. It amaze me even more... so much wisdom , leadership, friendship, pain, tears , angry, motivated, past, future, determination, politic mindset,power,loyalty,pain,sacrifice,purpose,higher goal,strong mindset,strong character . All those relatable in real life. This movie succeeded extract exactly what feeling it's all about when we watch it. The art of war ancient Japan , the honor, you can see deeper the meaning of it . Whoever scripted this movie is a philosopher and once a great thinker. Not just like other movie! Thumbs up.
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10/10
Its episode 8 and people still dont understand what they are seeing
gmantis-9708810 April 2024
I mean when do you guys will understand that this is not an action samurai bloodbath which only can provide amazing effects and all-out fighting..Its basically like Game Of Thrones made in Feudal Japan. The timeline is after the Azuchi Momoyama period and all the leaders battling of who will become the next Shogun,the military AND political leader of Japan..And thats what this show trying to do..Instead of going in a more fascinating way which can bring more people to watch it they want to stay true on the political things of the amazing and beautiful Feudal Japan..And thats another episode that stays faithful to this..Everyone in this cast is amazing,some more than others but the performances are on point while sometimes they reach to the point that they grip you down with how amazing they are .. Yea i want a big Samurai fight and i believe we will see it in the last 2 episodes..And with the stakes that have been builted for 8 episodes i am sure it will deliver

Shogun is the pleasant surprise of this year and one of the most well-written and produced series of the last years.
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10/10
Brilliant episode
terrylarosa9 April 2024
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Simply spectacular. The attention to detail of Japanese culture is exquisite and breathtaking. The acting from the entire cast is beyond stellar. If this show doesn't win every award it's up for then there is no justice. Since the get go I've been sure of Toronaga's plan but the show has had me wavering several times and more so in that jaw dropping scene with the council near the end. But then it dawned on me as I was both horrified and elated that everything has been part of the plan ( except for Toronaga's son's death ) which was finally confirmed in the final scene between Toronaga and Mariko. I watch every episode totally captivated on the sheer excellence of this shows production. As for the reviewer Eloj; I can unequivocally say that most if not almost all here are 100% behind Toronaga. You are emphatically wrong.
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10/10
Indeed the abyss!
zraingam12 April 2024
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It's a 10 out of 10... look at the good reviews and ignore the bad ones, some people should stick to movies like superman or maybe marvel movies to be satisfied with the main characters. Seriously... these people be giving low ratings because they didn't like the character development or unable to understand a more complex storyline... like really?

Anyways my review- it's excellent, the best episode so far... no action yeah but damn that was god level intense. I never felt so much for any movie or TV show like I did on this one. Each of the characters did an excellent job.... The seppuku moment had me yearning for a fairy tale twist like a child but No! They had to shove the grim, cruel outcome right to my face as I almost went through more emotions than I had in my entire life. It was delivered flawlessly..
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7/10
Loyalty Until The End, Or It Ain't Loyalty
excellent_person9 April 2024
Another entertaining episode of this awesome series, 'Shogun.'

It brought several tense and emotional moments, and interesting development of the main plot regarding the political struggle.

I left this episode feeling conflicted and disappointed, and also unimpressed with the pacing and dreary scenery, so although I still enjoyed watching, it's hard to rate it more than a 7.

For me the main problem is not liking any of the characters very much anymore. For several episodes now, the Anjin is no longer portrayed as particularly smart, charismatic, or loyal, so it's difficult for me to care much about his fate. The same goes for sad, grumpy Mariko. Instead, I find myself caring more about the courtesans, Omi, and.... Buntaro.

Let's hope there is a satisfying end to the hero's journey for all of these characters we've gotten so invested in...

Of course I'm loyal to Shogun until the end!!
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3/10
ridiculous episode , how sad
kzvkzy10 April 2024
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Toranaga is now an imoral character who has his best friend kill himself, with his son assisting !

This is the new japan we want !!

He is now no better than any of the other warlords. Who cares if that's part of the plan. None of the characters are engaging anymore.

The dramatic reversal in so many characters behaviour is really disappointing. Pretentious nonsense.

I con only think with this kind of erratic screenwriting. Is that they are planning on dragging out for more seasons. Which will end in a nonsensical finale like so many before it. Maybe an Alien will drop in by.

The smart viewers will have left at the end off this season , given only two episodes remain.
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10/10
Perfection!
This is storytelling at its very best. When each and every character has a role to play and they deliver with perfection, you couldn't ask for more, but more you want because this show delivers. The intricacies of each move being made is like the most strategic game of chess, carefully, watchful and thoughtful. At the end of the episode I was left reeling, exhausted as if I watched a two hour non stop action movie yet there was no action, it's all in the build up, the anticipation of what's to come and I cannot wait. With two episodes left, I'm already hoping to hear that season two is happening.
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9/10
Brutal, emotional, breathtaking! Best episode so far!
moritzherz9 April 2024
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Shogun's 8th installment, "The Abyss of Life", climbs at the top of all episodes so far and comes with a scene that surpasses everything we have seen before.

Having to wait one whole week to see this episode felt like an eternity! After the "Rains of Ajiro", as I called last week's episode, featuring the shocking betrayal of Toranaga's half brother and his surrender to the council plus the unexpected death of Toranaga's son Nagakado, I was trying to figure out how the show will move on. A few people had the idea (and hope) that Toranaga still has a backup plan and these people were right, at least they had the right idea.

What this episode does, and that's kind of typical of Shogun, is to play with its audience. It starts by showing the condition of Toranaga. He seems to be weak and suffering from an illness. His allies question his decision to surrender. They believe there is a chance to win if they fight Lord Ishido. But Toranaga seems to have mad his decision and declares every disobedience as treason. The anjin tries to win Lord Yanushige's allegiance for his plan to attack Osaka with ships, but he still believes Toranaga has some secret plan.

Then Toranaga summons all his Lords to sign a letter of surrender which he will be sending to Osaka. But some Lords and his personal advisor Hagemitsu refuse to accept this defeat. And Hagemitsu goes even further:

He sets Toranaga before an ultimate decision. If he does not decide to fight, Hagemitsu will commit Sepukku. Lord Toranaga fights with his emotions, you can see the tears he is trying to hide. This is his most loyal friend, he was there from him since he was a little boy and now he has to sacrifice him to ensure his masterplan will not fail. Watching this scene was heartbreaking! It was one of the most brutal and emotional scenes of entertainment history! To make it short and simple: This scene almost brought me to tears!

Lord Buntaro, Hagemitsu's son has to second his own father, which makes things even harder. This was the best scene of the show so far!

After this shocking event, Lord Yanushige decides to accept the anjin's offer. He now thinks of Toranaga as an old, mad man. But then we swith to Toranaga speaking to Lady Mariko, finally revealing his plan. By letting Hagemetsu die he made sure Lord Ishido and the council think his decision to surrender is real, but in the background he plans to fight. He explains how easy the anjin and Yanushige are to control. It was his plan they join forces and attack Osaka all the time. Lady Mariko also joins the two on their journey, of course you might rightly think!

The last scene of this episode shows Toranaga all dressed up, looking as good as new, concluding hos transformation from a sick old men at the start of the episode, to a determined, prideful leader!

This episode sets things up for a great finale we will get only two weeks from now! It is awesome to know, that we will get another two episodes of this phenomenon. Shogun proved again what it's made of and the steps of becoming the greatest show of the decade are getting fewer and fewer every week.
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8/10
Still a big fan of the series, can see why they did what they did here
plamen_xp_lv10 April 2024
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I should preface this by saying that I have read the novel Shogun, twice. It is a very influential book in my life, as the first time I read it, I was only 12-13 years ago.

So far, each and every episode has been absolutely brilliant, I believe I have 6 of them as 10/10 and 1 as 9/10. This one, while still brilliant in terms of tension, beauty, great cinematography and actors performance was a bit lacking in action, and significantly changed the fate of poor Hiromatsu. In the novel, he lives. The real-life inspiration for him was also alive after the events in the novel, mind you.

For me, this was done for dramatic effect, and quite successfully, but I still didn't like it that much. I feel like Nagakado's death could have been enough (he also doesn't die in the book by the way). I still feel like it is a solid development and does set the events I know will follow to be even more dramatic, I was just a bit at odds with this, but nevertheless, Shogun is a masterpiece, and unless they really mess up the last two episodes (and no, there's no chance there would be a second season, at least not based on the novel and the events in it), this show is 10/10 and one of the best in the last decade at least!
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10/10
Incredible drama!
and_mikkelsen10 May 2024
This was an absolutely amazing episode from beginning to end! It is clear that the end is near as the intensity grows and the consequences are felt!

This seems like the Turning point for Blackthorne as he now has to descide, which cause he picks! Who will he side with?

There is a theme of loyalty in this episode, as the characters almost have to descide what is more important.. loyalty or their faith?

Toranaga was however the best character in this episode! His scenes were incredible and I saw a whole new side of him! He has always been a bit mysterious and I now feel he is about to reveal his true intentions!

The scene near the end with him was the most dramatic and intense! I felt like he stared at my soul!

All the qctors did a PHENOMENAL JOB!!
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10/10
Hiroyuki Sanada makes Shogun a masterpiece
moviesfilmsreviewsinc24 April 2024
In Shogun Season 1 Episode 8, Nagakado is roasted by his own funeral procession members, but he helps his father's cause by ensuring a 49-day period of mourning before Toranaga's death march to Osaka. Toranaga's former right-hand man, Blackthorne, is also managing a mixed-bag situation. He is no longer forced to submit to the Council of Regents and his service to Toranaga has officially come to an end. However, there is no telling what will happen to Blackthorne now that he no longer enjoys Toranaga's support. He is also abandoning Mariko and other allies to whom he owes his life as they march to their certain demise in Osaka. On the upside, Blackthorne will finally be reunited with his crew, which may make him feel like someone who went on a long vacation hoping their goldfish would survive on thoughts and prayers. In Osaka, Ishido is desperate to win over Ochiba, who has become the real power behind the Council. He proposes marriage, but the Heir's mother seems less enthusiastic. Nagakado's festivities take a troubling turn when Omi blames Toranaga for his friend's death.

Toranaga is bedridden with illness or pretending to be, his men wear armor in protest of his surrender, and Yabushige wants to ride on Osaka with a full cannon regiment. However, he is deflated by the news that Ishido anticipated such a move. These are bleak times for Team Toranaga. Blackthorne's mastery of the language and his use of his new fluency to dunk on Alvito provide some comic relief. The Portuguese/Spanish threat and the fate of the British/Dutch pit crew have been back-burnered amid the regency struggle, but the drama comes back to the forefront with Blackthorne's threat toward the Black Ship. The episode of Shogun's antipenultimate episode is filled with bleak times for Team Toranaga. Blackthorne's mastery of the language and his use of fluency provide some comic relief.
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Disappointed Divergence
imdb-767-41745011 April 2024
While I still can commend the acting performance for the most part and occasionally the direction, it's the writing that I hold accountable for my disappointment.

The deviations from the source material have blurred the heart of the story for me and failed to fully capture the emotional depth present in the book. It's regrettable to see potentially strong characters and storylines compromised by the decisions of the writers.

The deep diplomatic component is not further explored, leaving a significant aspect of the story unaddressed. Characters make a big entry, then blur into the meaningless shadow, losing their initial impact and depth.
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10/10
Now now perfection has its own reward (haven't read book)
suvechhabose8 May 2024
Come on , my hands are shaking. I just finished the episode.

I don't remember this feeling since Red wedding.

This is pure savage. Absolute madness. I must write one detail first, giving a land to Brothel & church was such a great move , its hidden so well,you might call that move an art. Such a flip off , love it ! Whoever wrote this episode, screenwriter must be on some really forbidden chemical. Toranaga's move i ll discuss but Just by viewing standards the intensive conversation scene between Toranaga & Hiramatsu is spine tingling , sensational. I just had a fight with my friend few days ago so its understandable how characterfull the element of ego plays within a person's brain.

I wouldn't have done this what Hiramatsu did. He gave in to his emotions. Mariko sama's lines were true , Loyalty doesn't end . Life might do & besides I 'd love to die by a brother. A brother i have . I wouldnt regret. Yes. That's what brotherhood means .

Now now You can not enter Heaven unless you face hell Toranaga's fate . This is acting within acting. Splendid direction. Unforgettable experience. Epic , Raw . I won't be explaining this giant sacrifice.

But you Sir , the character of Toranaga I would very much to be within your family or far far away . How can you push your acting so well? How ?? Woof . Awesome. Pure absolute blitz ! I ll remember this episode. 8. A lucky number indeed.
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1/10
Such High Hopes
st_aug_dawg10 April 2024
I've read the reviews of those who still love this series, and this episode specifically, even though it doesn't honor the book and other than the settings and costumes I personally just can't take anymore.

Hiroyuki Sanada has been a favorite actor since seeing him in The Last Samurai, but he doesn't save this series for me. The drift from the books plot has now become a leap too far. This Blackthorne is a petulant lout and by this point in the book he was so much more.

I respect those who like and enjoy this but I cannot watch it anymore. I wanted to make it through all the episodes but The Abyss of Life sucked me into the abyss of despair...
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3/10
Love the book. Liked the start of the series. But they lost me
joostassink11 April 2024
Like i write in my headline. They just completely changed the book and the characters to a point where it doesn't make sense anymore. The crying samurai? That can't happen. Blackthorne a childish oaf. Not nearly as strong and smart and impressive as in the book. He is a shadow of the character in the book. Mariko seems to loathe him too and I see why. How is she going to fall in love with him? That's a driving plot line in the book right until the end. Where is the smart, puppet master Toranaga who is like a chess master playing the board so many moves ahead of everyone. Until buntaro started crying, he was the only character true to the book. Now, no-one is. Not even the minor character of Toranagas brother.
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3/10
The Abyss of Lies
Oslo_Jargo9 April 2024
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*** This review may contain spoilers ***

*Plot and ending analyzed*

Well, not much to say about this episode except it was even more of a digression from the others in terms of absolute coherence. Shoddy, haphazard, and aimless writing permeates it. A lot of the characters are "rewritten" to be completely opposite from what they were in the other episodes. It is as if a bunch of English majors with no idea of Japanese culture took part in it.

It is distracting and takes away from the overall story development. The Englishman is still written as an ill-mannered, discourteous, and impolite sod. He sees one of the European sailors in town by some "chance", and they have a fight. Okay. A truly pointless scene. He was so concerned about the crew throughout the other episodes, and now he nearly killed a man from his old ship. And he also turns against Toranaga. What a surprise. And then there is talk of "loyalty" in all the episodes, and yet it is all purposeless and of no value because of the way the Western writers have constantly flip-floped in their approach. This series is nothing like old Japanese samurai cinema, which relied heavily on believable drama. But apparently everything we are watching is part of the great "plan".

The Japanese translator's husband is also portrayed as a nice chap now. He makes tea for his unresponsive wife, and later, even cries like a baby. Buntaro was probably the only interesting character because he was opposed to the snotty Englishman, and his extreme aggression was the only diverting thing to watch.

And they throw in more meaningless nonsense about the brothel and the Portuguese church. Whatever.

If you have not guessed, Toranaga has had something brewing that only he knows about. (As if we should care at this point). We are left in the dark, but he will probably unleash that ludicrous plan with the silly name. He allows his old ally and friend to die? For what, to confuse the enemy? That is the worst piece of junk writing I have ever seen. He is an utterly trivial and boring character at this point. In this episode, he has a bad cold and he meanders around like a slothful worm. You would hope that they wrote some more gusto into his limp self, but no.

There are absolutely no likable or pleasant characters in the entire series. There are just a bunch of disagreeable, mercenary, self-regarding louts. And this episode really cements that. I have been disappointed in the characters in the past, but this episode makes it clear that the writers have absolutely no duty to the audience, or no duty to the characters themselves. The series is nothing more than an empty cartoon. The Englishman has no importance anymore, and to top it off, they made him even more fickle in this episode.

But we are supposed to root for Toranaga? Well, I think not.
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